Some people go with the apology without the self-reflection nor any change in future behaviour. Some do this over and over with no change in behaviour but a string of apologies longer than Pinocchio's nose. Those people deserve everything they get. For whatever reason, society allows some people to get away with numerous infractions and others get torpedoed for a single bad idea long ago. That's the real problem imo. Torpedo them based on a lack of change in behaviour, not based on the past action (I am referring to bad taste when viewed through the current lens not horrible crimes).Societal norms change. If you are saying dumb ****, stop it. If you said dumb **** 30 years ago, self-reflect and move on. If you said dumb **** on video 30 years ago and are somehow famous enough for anyone to give a **** - self-reflect, apologize for it, and move on. It's not hard.
Get with it or get out of the way
my concern with cancel culture is what happens next. Do we find out Jack Layton was the leader in a kiddie porn ring and now we have the rename everything he touched? Where does it stop?
Do the woke folks gather in Rome and tear down about 500 statues and sculpture since the Romans had a connection to slavery and racism ? Do we go to Scandinavia and do away with everything Viking because they raped and pillaged the UK?
This **** need to stop , there is nothing woke about being woke. Amazing that John Cleese will become the spokesman for the truly woke.
Here’s a conundrum for the modern day gen-x er.
Nelly McLung…proponent of eugenics, racist….one of the founders of the group that brought the vote to women.
Layton is like JT. The number of fanboys in their camp and commensurate slipperiness in the face of ethical violations is shocking. It's the opposite of a moron getting drunk and yelling something offensive and getting fired (potentially with life long consequences). These turds normally escape any consequences and if they are are administered they are meaningless (eg. $500 fine for every ethics conviction when the number should be at least a few orders of magnitude higher for the first conviction and going up exponentially from there).Why wait for any dirt to show up on Layton? Cancel him now on account of him and his wife living in subsidized housing with a combined income probably north of $400K.
He lost and is now fighting for his career. Party wants blood and he’s the easiest target.O’Tool kicks senator out of party over questioning his ability to run the show.
He's also a reasonable target. He proved that he didn't have what it takes to win and nothing he has done since has provided any evidence that things would be different if he led another election (which could happen at any time).He lost and is now fighting for his career. Party wants blood and he’s the easiest target.
Yes, but what I think I really failed to get across in my overly complex response is that slavery in the ancient world was fluid and could apply to anyone, as selling yourself into slavery was something people did to get out of debt or avoid starvation.@Priller, your response is very well written and your an educated guy. You present some excellent counterpoints.
My take ( possibly oversimplified) , is while the Romans didnt pick on the blacks, like the Americans , British, Dutch and Belgians did, they enslaved anyone they conquered. Anyone that wasn't Roman. They may have just used a broader brush.
I couldn't agree more, though it's important to understand that much of our common belief around history is coloured by past assumptions that are now often well outside consensus academic belief.I'm fascinated by history and I think we need to learn and understand from it, not obliterate it. If its wiped from all visibility we may have the opportunity repeat the same mistakes. The old adage 'history repeats itself' may never have been more relevant, specially when there is no visible reminder of what happened last time.
The Utopians scare me.
and the last time I saw a statue of John A. was at Parliament Hill, and it changed nothing about what little I know about him.
So there is! I've driven past it a bunch, but never noticed who it was.There's one in Gore Park at King and John in Hamilton. It was defaced a few weeks ago.
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Is this what you really meant?Justin goes with the apology without the self-reflection nor any change in future behaviour. Justin does this over and over with no change in behaviour but a string of apologies longer than Pinocchio's nose. Justin deserves everything he gets. For whatever reason, society allows Justin to get away with numerous infractions and others get torpedoed for a single bad idea long ago. That's the real problem imo. Torpedo them based on a lack of change in behaviour, not based on the past action (I am referring to bad taste when viewed through the current lens not horrible crimes).
Mostly. Not just him but he is the most egregious current example. Trying to avoid thread lock for political commentary. Lets be honest, the colour of your political banner has very little to do with your ethics/morality.Is this what you really meant?