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Canada Post - Huge losses
- Thread starter raginduck
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Weekly delivery would be fine for 99 percent of people. Most important mail is electronic now after the last few strikes forced businesses to find a better way. Actually can't think of much of anything that needs mailed anymore. They also do a terrible job at packages and are more expensive, if I ship by courier they will make multiple delivery attempts before asking you to pick up. Which is way better than zero attempts and a card. IMHO the union has made cp irrelevant unfortunately.
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I am one of those odd holdouts that still gets most of my bills and statements via the mail. If they strike/lockout, that will be the end of that...
Malks
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I think they tried to eliminate all door to door deliveries years ago and the government (can't think of which one) stopped this process midway through the change due to union opposition about job losses. Here in Orangeville there are streets where some continue to get door to door delivery, while neighbours a few houses away are now using super boxes.
If they want to retain some door to door then drop the delivery to one or two days a week. This should include super box deliveries as well. However, there is no way the current NDP propped up Liberals would ever support this change, so I'm not holding my breath on this one.
I believe the current offer made by CP sounded pretty good. There was a good pay increase, job security was included and the defined benefit pension plan will continue. I don't think some of the union members realize just how valuable that last one will be to them in the future.
If they go on strike I might not even notice.
I wish more management would have the balls of Ronny Raygun when he dealt with ATCs all those years ago.
It's common, if we strike they lock us out. We gave notice first.
sburns
Well-known member
Same here in daHood (Scarborough) I have door to door but any new builds have superboxes.
Malks
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Up here the change over was in full swing in some of the older neighbourhoods. All of the newer built areas, (anything less than 30 years old), already had super box delivery only. But the older areas had always been door-to-door. It's those areas where super boxes were installed and then as the change was happening it came to a sudden stop. It was just luck of the draw where the line was drawn between home and super box deliveries.
As I recall CP proposed reducing home delivery to reduce costs when Harper was in power. The newly elected Trudeau government stopped the move to community mailboxes after the election.
Canada Post to halt transition to community mailboxes
Canada Post is temporarily suspending its plans to transition from door-to-door mail delivery to community mailboxes as it works out a way forward with a new Libera…
ottawacitizen.com
In Montreal at that time, CP never asked for permission as to where community mailboxes would be installed and the city ripped out a number of them to prove its point.
Confirmed, they just walked off the jobsite at the plants nationwide.
www.ctvnews.ca
Postal workers begin nationwide strike: union
Thousands of postal workers have begun a nationwide strike, the union representing them says, after negotiations with Canada Post failed to produce an agreement.
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As expected, the company gave notice that the current agreement would expire at midnight and the new default working agreement would be the minimum standards as laid out by the Ontario Labour Code. No way the union was going to let their members have potential layoffs hang over their head.
Can they do that? I thought the old terms stayed in place until a new contract is done.
STRIKE ON FRIDAY: Here’s What You Need to Know
On the morning of Tuesday, November 12, your National Executive Board issued a 72-hour strike notice to Canada Post for both the Rural Suburban Mail Carriers (RSMC) and Urban Operations bargaining units. The National Executive Board has decided that a nationwide strike of both bargaining units...
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That has been the case for over a year. So both parties had agreed to extend an expired contract. That last until 12.01am this morning as the company has declined to agree to extend it.
I can't speak to all the 'issues'.STRIKE ON FRIDAY: Here’s What You Need to Know
On the morning of Tuesday, November 12, your National Executive Board issued a 72-hour strike notice to Canada Post for both the Rural Suburban Mail Carriers (RSMC) and Urban Operations bargaining units. The National Executive Board has decided that a nationwide strike of both bargaining units...
I can say I've heard nothing but complaints about the new system SSD. Maybe @Jayell can give more details if he wishes.
The flyers situation at my depot at least is pretty nuts. People are coming in or staying late an hour+ working unpaid to organize it for the day/next day. Technically part of your paid shift consists of this work but there is not enough time on average to deliver the route mail and organize this during the 8hrs and management will refuse to pay OT for it to be done.
I doubt the truth will ever come out but my suspicion is they are underpricing flyers for the work actually involved. Keeping flyer volume up looks good on paper and justifies existence of CP. If they compensated staff for the time required and charged what is required to deliver flyers profitably, almost that entire product line would dry up imo. That would be another step towards irrelevance. It does make it much easier to drop delivery frequency as you have cut 80% of the volume of garbage flowing through so it may be feasible to do delivery every week as storage requirements are hugely cut.
We have a note in our community mailbox to not deliver community mail, i.e. flyers. Don't need them, don't want them.
Presumably advertisers pay good money because they believe flyers work. That said, someone............ should do a survey of consumers as to the effectiveness or need for flyers as, I suspect, a huge percentage of them just get dumped in the garbage or in the recycling bin.
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