Can we have a civil bicycle thread?

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backmarkerducati said:
For recreational cycling Toronto has a tonne of ravine mixed use trails and most are wide open expect for near popular parks and beaches. Not great for the high speed TdF wannabees but good for most other cyclists. Head up etibicoke creek towards and past the airport, Humber creek except for the large parks..... Separated bike lanes (with the flexible bollards) are also growing and they are pretty good rides but the system has some very wide gaps getting from point a to b that requires some busy roads.

Elevated bike lanes are one of the most dangerous inventions yet. Turning cars don't look at them expecting bikes as they think it is sidewalk. Pedestrians think they are just a sidewalk extension. I have had more close calls on these than busy roads without bike lanes. Just a dumb and dangerous idea.

One contentious issue on some side/residential street bike routes in the GTA is the road with the bike route has a stop sign every block..... Seems like a dumb idea to me (I avoid using these). Want to encourage cycling, don't expect them to stop every 500 feet (which most won't anyways).
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Common sense. A dead stop isn't usually necessary but if you're down to a speed where there is time to look both ways and yield what's the problem.

I saw a video of a bike being hit and I don't know who was to blame. I'm assuming it was a riverside trail at a bridge. There was a striped zone but no clear indication to the car of what to expect. I don't know what signage was for the bicycle.

There was a high wall along the road that blocked the view for both the car and bike. Splat.
 
If cyclists want a high-speed track, Exhibition Place might be a decent start. The ring route is about 4KM, why not petition that underutilized resource as the racetrack instead of High Park?
 
Mad Mike said:
If cyclists want a high-speed track, Exhibition Place might be a decent start. The ring route is about 4KM, why not petition that underutilized resource as the racetrack instead of High Park?
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Variation in turns and elevation. The Ex would be a (long-ish) crit course.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
Variation in turns and elevation. The Ex would be a (long-ish) crit course.
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I'm surprised bike manufacturers dont sponsor more crit races. They probably destroy more frames/wheels in an evening than a month of normal riding. Keeps the economic engine churning.
 
GreyGhost said:
I'm surprised bike manufacturers dont sponsor more crit races. They probably destroy more frames/wheels in an evening than a month of normal riding. Keeps the economic engine churning.
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Maybe not up here in Canada, as is a lot of things.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
There use to be a crit at York U every year. That was back in the 80s, though.
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The High Park five mile might fit the definition. Hasn't been run in ages.

I don't see a problem finding venues for the races. Have one or two at High Park early Sunday AM, one at York, one at CNE, etc. One or two races per venue at each, off hours and no one is too inconvenienced.

The problem is where to train for the race.
 
 
I've only seen one cyclist so far today in High Park.
 
Baggsy said:
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I wonder how many collisions they caused if drivers over-reacted to the close calls.

Part 2 is that I would be 100% wired if I did a run like that. If anything went wrong would I be able to deal with it rationally?
 
Yeee but not me. Morons. Cant believe we pay these mouth breathers so much. Video of toronto cops riding through stop signs. Dont get me wrong, I dont think full stop on a bicycle improves much in many situations but we can't pay people over 100k a year to enforce laws they dont bother following while being paid.

toronto.citynews.ca

Police seen rolling through Toronto stop signs prompts uproar from cyclists

David Shellnutt, known as The Biking Lawyer, shared a video of two Toronto police officers on bicycles failing to stop properly.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca
 
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GreyGhost said:
Yeee but not me. Morons. Cant believe we pay these mouth breathers so much. Video of toronto cops riding through stop signs. Dont get me wrong, I dont think full stop on a bicycle improves much in many situations but we camt pay people over 100k a year to enforce laws they dont bother following while being paid.

toronto.citynews.ca

Police seen rolling through Toronto stop signs prompts uproar from cyclists

David Shellnutt, known as The Biking Lawyer, shared a video of two Toronto police officers on bicycles failing to stop properly.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca
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Isnt that the whole point of cops and the blue line and what not?
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