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油井緋色;1676038 said:
Also, @RockerGuy

If they both really do have PhDs, they don't need references: THEY GET REFERENCED. Same goes for MDs...but not as much as PhDs.
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I don;t know what field you're in, but in my field, everybody needs to reference. That included one of my ex-boss who had 200 research articles to his name.

You might not need to reference anything if you are casually discussing something or if a doctor is speaking to a patient. But in a scientific community, 99.999999% of articles have a reference at the back. Pick up any journal and look at the back there should be a reference section. Here are a couple with references that relate to what is being discussed:
http://iv.iiarjournals.org/content/19/2/417.full.pdf

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1516-89132009000500021&script=sci_arttext
 
Lyndsay said:
JC He did say one thing that made sense. He mentioned enteric coated usage, which would survive the stomach acid; that's the point of the coating as I'm sure you know. Most of the other stuff, I have to agree with you, I don't even know where you would go to get a PhD in homeopathy etc. They claim it's medicine, so shouldn't it be a M.D.?
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Enteric coating helps the drug bypass the stomach without getting degraded by acid, once in the gut you now have slightly alkaline pH, the enteric coating now dissolves but you still have degrading enzymes designed to break down protein chains (this is how we digest food). Enzymes are large protein chains...you see where this is going? Enzymes and proteins are terrible drugs to take as pills for this reason..our digestive system is designed to break many of them down for use as food/excrete what we don't need. Enteric coatings help some drugs survive an acidic environment but if they get broken down by digestive enzymes it's still not too much good for them.
 
Um this is slighty scaring me. My mother has stomach issues and I believe she takes enzyme pills. Is this the same stuff that you guys are saying is bad???
 
rafiki911 said:
Um this is slighty scaring me. My mother has stomach issues and I believe she takes enzyme pills. Is this the same stuff that you guys are saying is bad???
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If the enzymes are things for digestion or for a gastric problem then it's not bad at all as they are being delivered to the place they are supposed to be working and they may well do something before they get destroyed..but if you want those enzymes to get in the bloodstream to get to the extremeties or the brain or organs then you're fighting an uphill battle.
 
Oh good, yup she pulls the pill apart and puts it right into her food.

jc100 said:
If the enzymes are things for digestion or for a gastric problem then it's not bad at all as they are being delivered to the place they are supposed to be working and they may well do something before they get destroyed..but if you want those enzymes to get in the bloodstream to get to the extremeties or the brain or organs then you're fighting an uphill battle.
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rafiki911 said:
Um this is slighty scaring me. My mother has stomach issues and I believe she takes enzyme pills. Is this the same stuff that you guys are saying is bad???
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Your mom may want to rely on medical advice from a doctor, not Dr. JC100 of internet fame. :D No offence to JC100 or Rafik just an observation that anything read on an internet forum should be taken with a healthy degree of scepticism and not acted upon without real world guidance from someone that can be trusted on the topic. Whether that's designing a diet, figuring out what pills to take or what is the best sport bike for $14,000.

Now, if I've gleaned the right conclusions from this thread, I will lose weight riding a 600cc sport bike on the road if I'm eating papaya, injecting goo from a fresh-squeezed Georgian orange while I'm wrapped in Saran wrap and hanging off in the corners. Otherwise I'm wasting my time and may actually gain weight. Is that right?

Now, if I actually want to become healthy, then what do I need to do while riding?

(By the way, that was intended as humour and not a slag at the posters in this thread at all).
 
Griffin said:
Now, if I actually want to become healthy, then what do I need to do while riding.
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Standing on the seat on the QEW, do squats. Throw a balance ball between your feet and the seat for more challenge and of course a barbell across your shoulders for when you need yet more challenge.

Be careful when lane splitting as the barbell will get caught on mini-van luggage racks when in the lower "squat" position.
 
lmao yes I know, just wanted to know why it was bad and the go from there.

Griffin said:
Your mom may want to rely on medical advice from a doctor, not Dr. JC100 of internet fame. :D No offence to JC100 or Rafik just an observation that anything read on an internet forum should be taken with a healthy degree of scepticism and not acted upon without real world guidance from someone that can be trusted on the topic. Whether that's designing a diet, figuring out what pills to take or what is the best sport bike for $14,000.

Now, if I've gleaned the right conclusions from this thread, I will lose weight riding a 600cc sport bike on the road if I'm eating papaya, injecting goo from a fresh-squeezed Georgian orange while I'm wrapped in Saran wrap and hanging off in the corners. Otherwise I'm wasting my time and may actually gain weight. Is that right?

Now, if I actually want to become healthy, then what do I need to do while riding?

(By the way, that was intended as humour and not a slag at the posters in this thread at all).
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No offence taken, and you should always definitely consult a doctor (MD)...I also teach those prospective doctors the chemistry of drugs though.
 
y'all are reading way too much into things. if some one is a couch potato (or a mouse potato) and they switch couch surfing in favour of riding a motorcycle, then they've becoming more active and burning more calories. will they become greek gods/goddesses riding? doubtful but in my situation I lost a dress size. I remember my first time on the 401 after I upgraded to my M2 - I'm thinking to my self "Jesus **** how do people hang on?" not long after I'm cruisn down the highway one hand on the throttle other on my thigh drinking a tea and the wind resistance isn't even noticeable anymore.... before I started riding I sat around all day at work and sat around all night when i got home. my daily exercise was walking across the parking lot at work after finding the closest spot to the entrance. Lost about 5 pounds riding, nothing major. Only diet change is after I started riding I started drinking more tim hortons tea.
 
It sounds to me like JC100 is a drug rep. Drug reps are taught sales techniques to sell MD's on certain drugs. The drug rep comes in at lunch, buys lunch, fills MD's sample cupboard, fills MD's office with drug co's logo, (pens, writing pads, posters) and offers incentives to MD to prescribe said drug i.e paid vacations per prescriptions written.

I'm often consulted (and welcome) the most difficult health cases that have perplexed and exhausted all MD's, ND's, and various specialists. I won't shy away from Down's Syndrome or Autism as most doctors will. One area where placebo doesn't apply is veterinary medicine. One such case found me via a a friend who had a dog who had arthritis so badly that the dog couldn't eat. The dog [a Boxer] would wince every time she would lean into eat or drink. The dog was starving as a result even with bowls raised to accomodate her. The owner had taken the dog to three different vets and spent a small fortune ($1300). Mostly NSAIDS and cortisone were used as symptomatic relief causing the dog to have increased GI distress and bleeding. None of them offered any lasting pain relief. I recommend one gram of MSM (Methyl Sulfonyl Methane) one capsule p.r.n to test for sulphur sensitivity (which is quite common in both humans and animals). MSM is available at any health food store, and is very cheap ($20 per 60 caps). The dog reacted with no evidence of allergy or sensitivity to sulphur and in fact the owner woke up at 2:00 am with dog on her bed licking her face. Yes, this 100 LB Boxer had leaped onto the bed wagging her tail as the pain of arthritis that was plaguing her, was gone. The Boxer continued with MSM, one pill (one gram) B.I.D (twice daily) and went on to live a happy and pain-free life. Animals don't lie, humans do. And regardless, the placebo effect isn't considered "lying" it's a somatic phenomenon. "BUT" placebo does not apply to animals as animals do not have the ability to differentiate between cause and effect.

I actually don't like to tell people what I do. But if put in a position where it's necessary I will. And yes, I do have a mechanics license...as well I have a degree in Computer Science. My life is actually quite interesting as everyone has a car, a computer, a body, and some have animals...so I'm always fixing something, or someone.

I actually find health problems easier to diagnose and fix over some car problems. While in the trade, I worked for GM as a high-tech mechanic. High-tech mechanics deal in diagnostics all day long. And sometimes, they can be quite trying. *A car is a system of systems. The human body is a system of systems. The car is based on the human body, i.e. a brain (ECM), a stomach (fuel tank), an engine (muscles), a nervous system (wiring) etc. The job of diagnosing both is relatively the same. Only the human body hasn't changed much in millions of years, the car changes all the time.

This thread has been answered already and should be closed. Most instant weight loss is water weight. One only has to look to Indy or F1 as proof of loss of water weight...some drivers loose 2-3 lbs (or more) in a two hour race. The straps that hold them in the seat will be visibly loose at the end of the race.

Cruising Gurl has put it in lay-terms perfectly here. It is better to do some activity than none. There are other elements at work while riding, i.e increased oxygen, vitamin D (sun), and (unbeknownst to most), you're in a meditative state. As well, the social bonding aspect of enjoying something with your fellow rider are all beneficial to both physical and mental health.

There's one word that can summarize good health over bad, and that word is "move."

While on the road, and while there is nothing wrong with a good home-made burger once in a while, try and stay away from the franchises and you'll increase the health benefits of riding even more. Even at Tim's there are good food choices over bad.

Hopefully I can end this thread on a note of "shock", and that shock will lead someone in the right direction health-wise. Shock is a great motivator in medicine. One thing I notice as I study the human behavior of my fellow SS rider is smoking. It really does surprise me how many SS riders smoke. And in medicine when you have to tell someone they have lung cancer, their first reaction is "I need a smoke." Judging by the relatively high intelligence of an SS rider, and the fact that it's supposed to be a "sport", it makes sense to me that they would actually know how dangerous smoking is. But they don't, or choose to ignore it. Imagine playing soccer and running the field with a smoke hanging out of your mouth? I'll leave this thread with some shock to smokers. The sperm of a male who smokes will usually have a yellow tinge to it...and that yellow tinge is tar. Yes, i encourage you to look at your own sperm, it may just be the motivator that you need to stop polluting every cell in your body. The pillow of a smoker will usually have a yellow head stain as tar excretes from the head and hair of a smoker. Is this gross? Absolutely. Smoking pollutes every cell of the body. It's not just the lungs. Smoking is an insane behavior. And quitting smoking in this day-and-age is as easy as slapping on a patch or taking a pill (Chantix, Zyban).

There is enough information in this thread to dramatically improve your health. And your motorcycle can most definitely assist you in the direction of both better physical and mental health.

If you want to improve even further, take one tablespoon of Greens + (Greens Plus) daily, and keep OOO (Oil Of Oregano) in the cupboard for when you do get sick. These two health tips alone will dramatically change your life and keep you looking young and riding well into your old age. Small price to pay for a huge gain.

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Lol I'm no drug rep. I'm a medicinal chemist. I design and synthesise new drugs for a range of diseases and I teach all 4 years of undergrads and grad students in chemistry and pharmacology and related sciences the design process and synthetic chemistry that goes into making drugs. I've worked for 5 biotech and pharmaceutical companies and done about 8 years of research with somewhere around 20 patents on new drugs and I tend to think I know what I'm talking about on this subject seeing as how it's my entire career. You speculate away though.
 
@Prince Can you give anymore smoking "shock" examples?
 
A lot of drug pushers in this thread. You guys seem to have as much drug experience as Hells Angels.
 
Judging by the obesity exhibited by so many riders, I would guess that no, riding a motorcycle doesn't help you lose weight. At the end of the day you're sitting on your butt twisting the throttle... yeah, that's strenuous...
 
Prince said:
I actually don't like to tell people what I do. But if put in a position where it's necessary I will. And yes, I do have a mechanics license...as well I have a degree in Computer Science. My life is actually quite interesting as everyone has a car, a computer, a body, and some have animals...so I'm always fixing something, or someone.
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But have you ever been in a Dos Equis commercial?
 
油井緋色;1676694 said:
@Prince Can you give anymore smoking "shock" examples?
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Yes, schizophrenia. 100% of schitzophrenics smoke. You'd be hard pressed to find a schizophrenic who doesn't smoke. This finding has led drug companies on a path to chase down a cure for this frightening disease of the mind. When you smoke, you are stimulating areas of the brain that involve control over the autonomic nervous system. Dopamine is thought to be the main neurotransmitter being stimulated by nicotine. The stimulation to the brain is not by pure nicotine, it's stimulation by poisonous chemicals that are sprayed on, and used as binders and fillers in tobacco to control the burn rate of a cigarette. Tobacco in it's raw, natural state will catch fire. So, when I look at a smoker, I watch their behavior, and usually within minutes I can spot some sort of mental deficiency, be-it an anxiety disorder, depression, a personality disorder. When you stop smoking, only then will your true personality be seen. As a smoker, you are contributing to your own mental illness. Stop and your brain will begin the journey back to a euthymia. Continue, and you will be on the journey to mental degradation of some sort.

Seeing your sperm tinged by tar (and in women vaginal secretions) is seeing into your body. When you get to see into your body, your mind has a bit of an awakening to the reality that you are in fact killing yourself. I would rather scare a smoker who still has a chance than to try and save him/her from death. Which is usually an exercise in futility.
 
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Prince said:
Yes, schizophrenia. 100% of schitzophrenics smoke. You'd be hard pressed to find a schizophrenic who doesn't smoke. This finding has led drug companies on a path to chase down a cure for this frightening disease of the mind. When you smoke, you are stimulating areas of the brain that involve control over the autonomic nervous system. Dopamine is thought to be the main neurotransmitter being stimulated by nicotine. The stimulation to the brain is not by pure nicotine, it's stimulation by poisonous chemicals that are sprayed on, and used as binders and fillers in tobacco to control the burn rate of a cigarette. Tobacco in it's raw, natural state will catch fire. So, when I look at a smoker, I watch their behavior, and usually within minutes I can spot some sort of mental deficiency, be-it an anxiety disorder, depression, a personality disorder. When you stop smoking, only then will your true personality be seen. As a smoker, you are contributing to your own mental illness. Stop and your brain will begin the journey back to a euthymia. Continue, and you will be on the journey to mental degradation of some sort.

Seeing your sperm tinged by tar (and in women vaginal secretions) is seeing into your body. When you get to see into your body, your mind has a bit of an awakening to the reality that you are in fact killing yourself. I would rather scare a smoker who still has a chance than to try and save him/her from death. Which is usually an exercise in futility.
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I noticed this too. Every person with ADD, ADHD, or attention problems that aren't normal seems to smoke. And I don't know one person who gets bored extremely easily and HASN'T taken up smoking. But how is that a shocking example? It layman's terms, you basically said that smoking makes you feel good.
 
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