Free isn't always without cost.
Calabogie roll call Spet 14-15th and gearing suggestion
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Free isn't always without cost.
And the best thing a new rider to the track can do, for his sake and others.
Plus you start knowing the right lines off the bat and that is worth the 30 bucks
Or you can try and bypass it, crash in the carosel, make up a 100 excuses why you crashed, and barf in your helmet in the process.
Hmmmm that may sound familiar to one person here.
lol a story I have yet to hear
MaSheena
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The coaches are paid. The fee is credited back to them.
Yes, coaching use to be free and optional...and it was dis-organised and our incident level was much higher. Most riders would spend the first 2 or 3 sessions totally lost on track and then spend the rest of their day trying to find help from others or loading up their wrecked bike and going home. Friends who didn't know how to properly lead another rider were asking to switch groups to help their lost friend, causing other issues. Our volunteer coaches were spending their entire day not riding themselves, but rather helping riders with lines all day long. Some riders were using the complimentary coaching as a school, attaching themselves to a coach all day when really, they should have been going to see Mr. Mercier for a FAST lesson.
Now, I know how many new riders we have each day and have the proper amount of coaches ready to go. By charging a small one time fee, the coaches are compensated and riders attend orientation, are attentive, and take it seriously.
We have put about 300 new riders through the program the last two seasons. Maybe 20 have argued with me about having to take it, and only 3 have been unhappy after taking it...I can literally remember their names and bike numbers.
Most importantly, our incident levels have decreased dramatically since we made the orientation mandatory.
We can't please everyone, but we give it all we got.
I think mandatory orientation is vital to everyone's safety. Pro6 does an outstanding job ... 30 bucks is pretty damn cheap considering the caliber of the coaches involved. Losing your way and taking a fall is going to cost a lot more money. Some of you guys are being cranky cheapskates LOL
Hey Sheena, I have an idea ... why don't we have a 4th group called the WHITE Group - all new riders and they do rotation along with the other 3 groups ... so now we all lose 5 minutes an hour to help them learn the track without orientation ... DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY? Just joking!!!! I thinks it's great the way it is
Fixed it for ya. No sense complaining after when things were beyond your control.
What about the cool signs before every corner that show the corner number and direction/shape of it! F'ing love those
Shaman
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What about the cool signs before every corner that show the corner number and direction/shape of it! F'ing love those
Like I said... with all the pressures on them...
There is nothing easier than to read and follow signs at high speeds the first time you go through a new course, They could also make it a little game and instead of saying corner 6, they could put a sigh like this 4+2, because there is nothing else I like to do when I do track than to target fixate on anything else but the place where i want to go.What about the cool signs before every corner that show the corner number and direction/shape of it! F'ing love those
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There is nothing easier than to read and follow signs at high speeds the first time you go through a new course, They could also make it a little game and instead of saying corner 6, they could put a sigh like this 4+2, because there is nothing else I like to do when I do track than to target fixate on anything else but the place where i want to go.
Hey, Look who came back lol
Maybe if you stopped reading signs you would be going faster and not crash
Did you miss a sign and were trying to look back to read it?
If the pics didn't give it away the "woot" expressing excitement did. Even after taking the course, following a much more experienced/faster rider in your video you still couldn't find the lines and ended up on your head. I guess your too good for advice.
I'd be more than willing to pay $30 to get led around a new track by a pro. If $30 is going to make or break your track day you need to find a new hobby (yes track days = hobby).
I'd be more than willing to pay $30 to get led around a new track by a pro. If $30 is going to make or break your track day you need to find a new hobby (yes track days = hobby).
Thank you for clarifying the situation. Not that you should have to explain yourselves.
Maybe you should put a space on the waiver form for "GTAM username" in future as well!
Oh, and finally;
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TLDeano
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Bogie is different. Proper lines dictate how safe you can be at speed and they help laptimes more than anywhere else. Without proper instruction its a potentially dangerous place to leave the track at speed when you not on a safe line. 30$ is nothing for so much knowledge. A place like that needs rules, and Pro6 has kept on top everything and altered how the day is run more than any other provider would ever bother to.
Buy 10 or something like that track days and you get a discount, and you can mix and match different tracks they are doing that season...I just called it a season pass
Just like anything buy bulk and save a little $$$$
So jamie you never said why you didn't like the guided tour. Was the instructor too fast, too slow, or not up to your caliber of riding. I have raced on every canadian track and many U.S. tracks. My first time at bogie I did the 2 guided. Then asked for a 1 on 1 for the third. Which pro 6 had no problem with. Tthat session alone was worth $30. The instructor took me down to 2 seconds off your best lap.
I can post the full video from the training sessions:
1. Missed the first session of the day due to going over the track map/layout, tricky bits, "classroom" stuff, make sense, no problem with that.
2. Our first "training" session was red flagged in the middle of the 2nd lap, waited on track while guy was air lifted, session over.
3. Our instructor Matt went out in red group (the group before our next training session) and broke his bike in half so they had to find a new instructor for us.
4. Our new instructor was late getting ready (understandable), so there were only a few laps left in the session. We spent most of the time staying out of the way of the other riders, not learning the race line or braking points, etc.
Then it was lunch time, training over
At no time in our training did we exceed 40km/h (that's an exaggeration but not far off).Had I have known I coulda done some one on one (I didn't think so cause our instructor was out of action and they had trouble finding a replacement, so didn't think there were extra trainers on hand) I probably would have went that route.
Like I said, not much they could do/control, was just a cluster **** from the start.
