Buying a DRZ that has been sitting for over 16 months?

BTW, I just bought an 09 bike which sit with old gas in the tank for good 2 1/2 years. I wonder whether I should revoke the deal, but bike fired right up and seems to at least idle and rev strong.
 
I bought a brand new 2007 cr125 in 2010. It was a leftover. Problem was someone had put gas in it (not sure why since it was brand new) back in 2007.How do I know this ? Because when I got it home before i even tried to start it I drained the carb. What came out literally looked like syrup. I have never seeing anything like it. The gas had basically turned to varnish. Anyway no big deal. Drained tank and took carb apart and cleaned it. Filled with fresh gas and it started first kick.
 
mxs said:
I think the theories about oil breaking down just by sitting and containing so much water by going through temperature changes is an nice fairy tale without any scientific evidence. Maybe there's more water now then oil....LOL

Also someone called 05 DRZ for 5K a good deal???? That's just crazy, I don't care what it comes with.
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Well if you're going to twist the things that were said out of context sure, who the hell would believe you?! Where did anyone say anything about more water than oil? where did anyone say anything about oil breaking down due to water in it? But fire up that engine and have water get pulled up through the oil pump and into the oil passages and you can bet that the viscous property and the thin film of barrier between metal on metal is gonna be non existent.

Again, oil sitting for 2 years is NOT the end of that engine....but a neglected bike like that DEMANDS a lower price, which we're not seeing here.
 
I'll sell you my 2008 with less than 4000km for $4700, its in perfect condition, and needs absolutely nothing
 
Red_Liner740 said:
Through numerous temperature cycles, condensation builds up on the internal of the engine and ends up in the oil. Having it sit for a long enough time and there will be a substantial amount of water in the oil.

I wouldnt be worried too much about it IF the price reflected the condition....it doesnt....
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This is true, condensation can build up, but normal operating temperature is around 220 deg fahrenheit, any moisture that maybe in the engine will be burned off at that temp
 
^^ Absolutely....A regular driven engine builds up condensation too, but driving it burns it off, 2 years of sitting = over 700 heat cycles....thats a fair bit of water build up now....are you willing to risk your engine vs a 20 dollar oil change?
 
jdepp said:
I bought a brand new 2007 cr125 in 2010. It was a leftover. Problem was someone had put gas in it (not sure why since it was brand new) back in 2007.How do I know this ? Because when I got it home before i even tried to start it I drained the carb. What came out literally looked like syrup. I have never seeing anything like it. The gas had basically turned to varnish. Anyway no big deal. Drained tank and took carb apart and cleaned it. Filled with fresh gas and it started first kick.
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thats what happens. plus its a two stroke right? so gas oil mixture would be nasty.

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Red_Liner740 said:
^^ Absolutely....A regular driven engine builds up condensation too, but driving it burns it off, 2 years of sitting = over 700 heat cycles....thats a fair bit of water build up now....are you willing to risk your engine vs a 20 dollar oil change?
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^^this guy knows stuff!

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Red_Liner740 said:
^^ Absolutely....A regular driven engine builds up condensation too, but driving it burns it off, 2 years of sitting = over 700 heat cycles....thats a fair bit of water build up now....are you willing to risk your engine vs a 20 dollar oil change?
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:lmao: Oh my god.

You can't be serious. I agree about changing the oil but do you honestly believe there would be any noticeable amount of water in it?
 
Red_Liner740 said:
^^ Absolutely....A regular driven engine builds up condensation too, but driving it burns it off, 2 years of sitting = over 700 heat cycles....thats a fair bit of water build up now....are you willing to risk your engine vs a 20 dollar oil change?
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How does a engine that has not run in two years get heat cycled 700 times ?

A engine will not get a build up of water(moisture) in the crankcase or the oil from sitting, I have a car in my unheated garage for 5 years now, I can for sure say I have no moisture in my engine that wont burn off in a good run.

And where do you find a $20.00 oil change?
 
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Fuel was drained from the carb and the tank when it was stored, so hopefully it should only need a new battery and some gas before it's good to go.
 
I guess i gotta dumb this down for you. See the sun goes down at night and the air turns cold, this in turn cools down all objects wxposed to the cooler air. In the morning when the sun starts to come up the air warms up but the objects such as your car, grass, everything remains cool. This causes The moisture in the air starts to condense on these objects. Im sure uve seen it but never connected it in your head. Its called morning dew, also happens when u pull a cold beverage from the fridge. If the objects are cold enough the condensation turns to Frost. You know, that thing you scrape off the Winshield. This exact same thing happens on the internals of the engine. Dew forms and beads up and ends up in the oil.

But the **** do i know other than dozens of neglected car, motorcycle, and plane engines i opened up. Aircraft piston engines we setup for storage had the spark plugs removed and desiccant packets installed to GASP remove the nonexistent moisture. This is also why long term storage calls for fogging the cylinders.

Carry on.

RonnieRev said:
How does a engine that has not run in two years get heat cycled 700 times ?

A engine will not get a build up of water(moisture) in the crankcase or the oil from sitting, I have a car in my unheated garage for 5 years now, I can for sure say I have no moisture in my engine that wont burn off in a good run.

And where do you find a $20.00 oil change?
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Thanks for the condescending education, I will be sure to drain the gallons of water from my engine(s) before I start them in the spring.
 
LOL ...... Unbelievable, eh. I really feel for the people who come here for an advice. Sad state having to weed through the theory laden posts.

Now, let me go enjoy my overcycled water bike.
 
If it hasn't been started, the oil is exactly the same as it was the day he put it in. Condensation didn't happen without running the engine. Gas was drained, so no issue there. 20 month old + tires aren't a big deal either.

I'd figure out a fair price for the bike, get the seller to buy a battery, fresh gas, a UVIP, and go help him get it started. If it runs well and you're happy with the price, take it home.
 
jonl said:
I'd figure out a fair price for the bike, get the seller to buy a battery, fresh gas, a UVIP, and go help him get it started. If it runs well and you're happy with the price, take it home.
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Yup, exactly what I was thinking after reading the some of the more helpful on-topic comments in this thread. I figure below his asking price of $4500 and above $4000 is a fair price for a bike like this if everything seems solid, because it looks pristine from the pics he took, and it has less kms than my 2011 ninja 250 that I only rode last season. It still all depends on my inspection which I will be thorough with.

And of course he needs the UVIP, it's illegal to sell a road vehicle without it.
 
Buy it already or give out the guys number so someone else who knows what they are looking at can enjoy the bike.
 
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