Mad Mike
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The wheelbarrow does, but I think that's mostly because its a rat-barrow setup with a gasser stance. I just take it to shows these days, on a trailer, so I'm not too worried.
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But will I die? (static vs dynamic balancing your tires)
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TK4
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V-rated white walls can fix that.
Trailer tires too.
Princess Auto will sell you a Carlisle on a rim for about the same price as a Goodyear Marathon tire... if not less.
OP: I would balance the new rim before you put a tire on it.
New tires are pretty good for balance (if you do enough tires you'll notice there are less tires with dots on them as they now are round and balanced so there is NO heavy spot)
I balance the rim, slap tires on and test ride. I haven't balanced a tire in years.
... and you can't REALLY balance a rear tire/wheel, unless you balance it on the bike with the brakes and chain on.
TK4
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The chain won't make the slightest difference but the sprocket and carrier will.
@adri since you are doing this for presumably a post/video somewhere, the static/dynamic balancing could be an interesting addition. Do everything yourself (although I agree with others, the smaller the wheel the harder it is) and then for interest, take it to a shop and get it balanced. See what the machine says. If the machine is happy, thumbs up. I doubt it would want much correction.
TK4
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Not when the tire and wheel are so old they're rusted together.I don't get it. I changed my wheelbarrow tire last spring. New tire, existing tube and wheel. Took all of five minutes. No fuss, no muss. No cursing. I used short, plastic levers intended for a bicycle tire. Easy.
Do you want I should school you guys?
Mad Mike
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I'm in the wheel biz, I don't make the light duty stuff that goes on wheelbarrows, when I changed my last wheel I used a 16" pneumatic with a 1" axle and tapered bearings. Upped the GVRW to 2000lbs.
And it's still fast.
Bingo. I have no idea what I'm doing or how I'm going to do it once I get things mounted. I just had a pair of tires balanced on a similar Vespa rim a week ago on a static balancer but didn't pay attention so I'll call shop and ask for their input.
It's also part of why even though I like the idea of static balancing them myself and then having a shop dynamic test my work, I don't know if that will be possible.
I forgot to finish the order on my spoons so for tonight all I did was install the valves. I just had the tiny cheap valve multitool so I needed the missus to stand on the rim so I could pull the valve through. All recorded of course, so the weird foot fetish dudes can look forward to some hot floofy slipper action shots.
Mad Mike
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Connect the dots. Your new tire will have a red dot somewhere on the sidewalk, your rim should have a small dimple, usually close to the valve stem. Align those dots and you are as close to balance as you can get without weights.
For a scooter with modern wheels and tires , that's all you need - the wheels don't spin fast enough to have an out of balance issue.
TK4
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Funnily enough, I was reading somewhere else that only a red dot goes to the stem.
Any other colour goes 180 degrees opposite and no dot means who cares.
Even the tire manufacturers can't seem to agree...
My Michelin City Grip 2s have no dots on either tire on either side.
It's interesting given that my other scooter has Michelin City Grip (originals, not 2s) and those do have dots.
Mad Mike
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Unusual. They wash off, are the tires new or have they been tire shined?
Brand new. Stickers still on them and everything.
Mad Mike
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Not every tire is off balance these days -- no dots means it came off the line without needing balance correction.
Oh man. Trying to mount a tire today was embarrassing. Over an hour and no success. Could not get past 80%. Felt like I might rip the bead a couple times. I was trying to self teach with a headache, and the free rim protectors that came with my cheapo amazon spoons were really terrible to deal with... Or I could just be making excuses for totally striking out today. I'll try again on the weekend and find out lol.
Crappy spoons will intensify that headache. I've got a pail full of them.
Find yourself at least 2.....or 3 of these. (I use three).
Tire Iron Curved 15 Inch - Motion Pro
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Relax
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You can try a bubble balancer, if it fits, otherwise you need special cones for a static balancer to fit the larger hole. People rave about this guy's stuff, but I haven't been able to bring myself to spend the money (but that's more because I've never bothered balancing my own motorcycle wheels, even though I have all the equipment and do it for everyone else):
Vespa Scooter Wheel Balancer
Vespa/Kymco scooter wheel balancer products by Marc Parnes - learn how to balance your own scooter wheels, complete parts list and prices included.
www.marcparnes.com
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