perfect cheap shot for David Booth with his arrows
Black bear in Burlington park
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perfect cheap shot for David Booth with his arrows
EngineerJoe
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Thanks for the tips! I'll be talking to you two more once the season opens.
The 500lb bear sighting was in Milton way the hell over here on Sunday evening.
The bear from Wednesday was in Burlington, way over here.
I doubt it was the same bear. With that said, I think if you come face to face with a bear, things might get embellished a bit lol
daught
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Thanks to tree huggers we still have wild life...
rmemedic
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You really think that?
What about huge organizations like Ducks Unlimited, or the NWTF? The NWTF on their own re-introduced a natural bird back in to the wild that was in very very low numbers, and now almost every time I'm out I see/hear Turkeys.
DU is fighting for natural habitat to be left natural and fights industry to keep out. With all the stuff being brought up about the oil sands, DU is huge in protecting that eco-system as it's very important for bird migration.
Hunters aren't out there to kill anything and everything and leave a dead carcass behind.
Every single one I know is ethical, takes what we need and that's it. We bring our garbage out of the bush, and that can't be said about a lot of hikers/mountain bikers.
How much time do these tree huggers spend out really watching nature? Reading signs, patterns and spending days out there?
Some of the best times in hunting are listening to the forest wake up or settle down for the night, or watch the sun rise over the bay with the sound of ducks/geese in the horizon. Those are the times I think of, and most tree huggers don't have the same connection that hunters do with the environment.
If hunters don't look after it, then we lose our way of life. The fight to keep land natural is OUR fight. Granola eaters just belong to this group of higher than thou know it alls that don't stand to lose as much as people that live a real outdoors life style.
daught
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Alright, so we have a lot of misconceptions about each other.
rmemedic
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Well, when someone goes stating that a certain group is the only group protecting the environment, and that the arguably larger group that has more to lose does nothing but destroy it...
I understand the image hunters have amongst a certain mind frame of people... But those people are un-educated about it and just plain out wrong.
As you can see, I'm a hunter and obviously care about the natural world we live in. I wish more people would get out and experience it and open their minds.
I understand the image hunters have amongst a certain mind frame of people... But those people are un-educated about it and just plain out wrong.
As you can see, I'm a hunter and obviously care about the natural world we live in. I wish more people would get out and experience it and open their minds.
What I quoted was some guys exaggeration. Never said it was one bear or another.
Just saying it's BS there was an eight foot black bear found. It was just a regular black bear and this soon after spring it wouldn't be anywhere near that size or weight.
I suppose having lived in Petawawa for nine years I wouldn't be as freaked as some Urbanite if I did see one around. It's like seeing a skunk. I'm not going to go up and kick it in the balls but I'm not going to **** myself.
Personally I don't kill animals. I have no issue with hunters doing what they do but it's not my thing.
Bear got wacked for being in the wrong place I guess...
stevex
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people care so much more about cute fuzzy animals simply because they are... cute fuzzy animals. Would you all be so quick to admonish the destruction of this animal if it had mauled a little kid?
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - bears are dangerous and wild. This is the reality of what happens when you assimilate the landscape around you. Its an unescapable fact of a growing human race.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - bears are dangerous and wild. This is the reality of what happens when you assimilate the landscape around you. Its an unescapable fact of a growing human race.
daught
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Come on, it's not like no one poaches and all hunters are Greenpeace activists that kill only overpopulated species. There's plenty of bad apples among all outdoor enthusiasts.
invictus43
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See that's kinda the problem right there..
stevex
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lol I don't disagree with you but I'd LOVE for someone to come up with a solution to that particular connundrum...
rmemedic
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No doubt there are poachers. I don't associate with those type of people and in fact have been part of a group reporting on a guy that we witnessed.
I didn't say hunters were perfect. But, you get a lot of these greenies that think all hunting is evil no matter if it's a controlled hunt or not. The type of "activists" I don't like are the extremists... That don't want to share and think they know best.
Fact is, humans are in areas where wild life is, and sometimes they just can't co-exist. That's just how it is. I would love to stop urban sprawl, but that won't happen. Therefore, animal "control" is needed. Bears are cute n cuddly to watch (I see them here a lot, and they are pretty tame) but they can be a big problem... The population sure isn't hurting. The even that is in the OP is exactly the kind of event that hunters predicted would happen once the spring bear hunt was taken out.
You likely also don't realize there is a bit of a coyote issue. For a top predator to be this populated, that means the "prey" animals are also in good numbers... The issue is these coyotes are killing dogs for being in their area and are in taking out smaller live stock... I don't think anyone should have an issue with numbers being controlled to prevent this.
Look at it this way:
You can either have the government spending hundreds of millions to control wild life populations, and stop all hunting, which would also result in billions of lost revenue each year... Hunters can be kit sluts.
Or, you can have a regulated program, where people will pay the government to go out and control these populations for free, you keep a few million gun carrying people in the country happy that they still have their rights, and have them throwing their spare cash in to the economy.
It's a huge family thing too, it's passed down in my family and is "bonding time". Keeps kids out of trouble and in the real world, outside of the tv and computer.
The benefits of hunting far out weigh the advantages of the wishes of an ill informed group of people.
Send the deer huggers on a trip down the Blue Ridge Parkway and after about a day of dodging the bush rats and seeing smashed up cars and bikes they'll be complaining that the Americans don't have enough guns.
So many people have no idea what they are talking about but they support these ridiculous causes and meanwhile they are living a lifestyle that is completely contradictory. I have a friend who is a strict vegetarian and a green peace activist, she even attends rallies. She is also a strict catholic and supports the pope, drives a lincoln navigator, is a shopaholic and severely overweight. She is horrified at the fact that I raise, kill and eat animals, yet she chugs milk like it's her last meal, eats eggs from factory farms and buys tons of leather and other animal products and she refuses to use the green bin because it is "smelly" She wanted the burly bear shot , for the safety of her kids, but had attended the bear hunt protests. Every time I see her I am so tempted to enlighten her but I realize it is futile. I do like stirring the pot though by telling her how many insects she consumes in her "vegetarian" pasta sauces, or that most commercial icing is made from animal fat, or how milk has puss in it from the cows getting mastitis. I also called her out on her so called "virginity" at the age of 28, telling her that just because she only takes it in the *** doesn't make her a virgin. Then again, that could be a good solution the the over population of the world I suppose. 
.....rant over
.....rant overEngineerJoe
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I have to agree with rmemedic's posts (all of them). There are a lot of misconceptions when it comes to hunters and hunting and I wish more people would take the time to educate themselves before taking a stance. With that said, I'm confused with how cancelling the spring bear hunt resulted in bears moving to Milton.
1. Wouldn't more tags be available in fall to account for the increased population?
2. When the spring bear hunt was allowed, wasn't it only allowed north (several hours drive) of the GTA?
3. It's been said that hunters predicted this sort of thing back when the spring hunt was cancelled. Arguably the hunters have a biased opinion. Did anyone else predict this?
Don't get me wrong, by no means am I anti-hunting... On the contrary, my wallet has a license for bear, moose, deer and small games (going hunting for the first time this year
). I'm just trying to educate myself.
1. Wouldn't more tags be available in fall to account for the increased population?
2. When the spring bear hunt was allowed, wasn't it only allowed north (several hours drive) of the GTA?
3. It's been said that hunters predicted this sort of thing back when the spring hunt was cancelled. Arguably the hunters have a biased opinion. Did anyone else predict this?
Don't get me wrong, by no means am I anti-hunting... On the contrary, my wallet has a license for bear, moose, deer and small games (going hunting for the first time this year
). I'm just trying to educate myself.Your friend annoys me... at least she can't reproduce since package deliveries are being routed to the back-door.So many people have no idea what they are talking about but they support these ridiculous causes and meanwhile they are living a lifestyle that is completely contradictory. I have a friend who is a strict vegetarian and a green peace activist, she even attends rallies. She is also a strict catholic and supports the pope, drives a lincoln navigator, is a shopaholic and severely overweight. She is horrified at the fact that I raise, kill and eat animals, yet she chugs milk like it's her last meal, eats eggs from factory farms and buys tons of leather and other animal products and she refuses to use the green bin because it is "smelly" She wanted the burly bear shot , for the safety of her kids, but had attended the bear hunt protests. Every time I see her I am so tempted to enlighten her but I realize it is futile. I do like stirring the pot though by telling her how many insects she consumes in her "vegetarian" pasta sauces, or that most commercial icing is made from animal fat, or how milk has puss in it from the cows getting mastitis. I also called her out on her so called "virginity" at the age of 28, telling her that just because she only takes it in the *** doesn't make her a virgin. Then again, that could be a good solution the the over population of the world I suppose.
rmemedic
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I'm not sure how a Bear ended up in Milton... But, wild life lives a lot closer than you would think. There is a small Cougar (not talking middle aged women) population in Ontario, believe it or not. And sightings have been made in SOUTHERN Ontario. Bears are attracted to how easy we make life for them food wise. I've seen them only a few minutes north of the 401 east of the GTA. You would have to think this bear was very confused once it got in to urban space and couldn't find it's way out. A scared/confused animal isn't a safe one... Especially a bear.
