Bicycle Protests

[Dimitri]

Speaking of bike lanes. I saw this today but someone recorded it. Apparently tall fixed concrete dividers are invisible to drivers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559222246840877056

For all the bonehead moves cyclists do. There is a Twitter account documenting just a fraction of what drivers in Toronto do with Bike Lanes.

https://twitter.com/BikeShame

 

[FullMotoJacket]

That's why as a motorcycle forum we should be advocating not fighting what's termed "low impact" commuting.

Speaking of bike lanes.

Do you understand the term thread hijack?

This post is not about bicycle commuting. It's about road (hobby) cyclists protesting for a portion of the multiple use time allotment in High Park be set aside to use to train for/enjoy their hobby. I have yet to see a single one of your posts address this. You keep blathering on about (inflated) commuting numbers on the public roads and (erroneous) single (mis)use of tracts of municipal land, none of which have any bearing on the topic.

 

[Dimitri]

I have yet to see a single one of your posts address this.

Humm, literally my first post in this thread. Plate them to make them ticketable.

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Third post on putting speed cameras everywhere once they are plated. So they can't complain cops are selectively targetting them.

Bicycle Protests

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Followed by a half dozen posts explaining how selling permanent plates that cost $3.60 for a profit can make this process cheap.

Try to follow along. Me responding to other things. Such as the clearly deflated number of cyclists in the city relates. As it only justifies the need for plating cyclists as they become a significant percentage of road users beyond just the lycra guys complaining at High Park.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Humm, literally my first post in this thread. Plate them to make them ticketable.

Bicycle Protests

Life is valueless in American culture. We are praised when we value killing in movies, video game, and other media. We have made killing the sign of manhood and make it appear as control of one's destiny. Asking what makes people want to kill each other under this context is a very simple...

www.gtamotorcycle.com

Third post on putting speed cameras everywhere once they are plated. So they can't complain cops are selectively targetting them.

Bicycle Protests

Life is valueless in American culture. We are praised when we value killing in movies, video game, and other media. We have made killing the sign of manhood and make it appear as control of one's destiny. Asking what makes people want to kill each other under this context is a very simple...

www.gtamotorcycle.com

Followed by a half dozen posts explaining how selling permanent plates that cost $3.60 for a profit can make this process cheap.

So you advocate the turbodish solution. Sounds about right. Should walkers that don't stay on the walking trails in Don Valley Golf Course be ticketed as well? Fair is fair.

 

[Evoex]

Speaking of bike lanes. I saw this today but someone recorded it. Apparently tall fixed concrete dividers are invisible to drivers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559222246840877056

For all the bonehead moves cyclists do. There is a Twitter account documenting just a fraction of what drivers in Toronto do with Bike Lanes.

https://twitter.com/BikeShame

sure i've seen cars run into the large concrete one's plenty of time just further down near Bay.

 

[Dimitri]

So you advocate the turbodish solution.

No he'd say they are oppressed, poor, or in some other way an oppressed minority that needs to be a special cookie in society.

I want the typical fair right wing approach. Everyone doing the same thing should be accountable the same way.

In this case, cyclists, e-bikes, scooters, motorcycles, cars, and trucks should all be on a level playing field as vehicles on the road. At the least every road user should be plated.

Anything motorized, electric, combustion engines etc should also be treated the same. Plated, licensed and insured.

It's the right thing to do.

 

[backmarkerducati]

Big government in everyone's business and more taxes is not far right.... at least not fiscally--maybe socially?

 

[Maniac]

Why do you think it’s a right wing approach? As a liberal, I fully support it. Not to mention we got conservatives running the Province and the City of Toronto.

 

[Dimitri]

Big government in everyone's business and more taxes is not far right.... at least not fiscally--maybe socially?

Yes socially. Get rid of all these special interest groups that advocate they are special over the law. Like lycra guys speeding or e-bikes skirting the HTA requirements that a Liberal government put into place.

Not to mention we got conservatives running the Province and the City of Toronto.

I'd argue Tory went full central as mayor. Which is a good thing. We need less polarization. But this is slightly off topic.

 

[LePhillou]

In this case, cyclists, e-bikes, scooters, motorcycles, cars, and trucks should all be on a level playing field as vehicles on the road. At the least every road user should be plated.

Cars are still plated, kill people, and get away with a tap on the freaking wrist. You can kill a whole family (4 people) and not even get a life sentence

Brady Robertson sentenced to 17 years in prison in crash that killed 3 kids, mother in Brampton

A Caledon man found guilty in a fatal crash that killed a mother and her three young daughters in Brampton almost two years ago was sentenced Monday.

toronto.citynews.ca

Teen driver handed 1-year custodial sentence after crash that killed 2 siblings in Vaughan - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

A speeding teen driver has been given a one-year custodial sentence after a crash in Vaughan last year that left two siblings, aged four and 10, dead.

globalnews.ca

Quebec man who killed family of four in drunk driving crash sentenced to 16 years

QUEBEC - A Quebec man who killed four members of the same family in a car crash last September in Quebec City has been handed one of the toughest sent...

www.thestar.com

And then we spend all this time complaining and being annoyed at cyclists riding through a stop sign while the road users being killed are just shrugged off by the system. As one of my LEO family members has mentioned, a lot of traffic enforcement is ticketing good people trying to get to work on time. (He dealt more with the serial killers, rapists, gangs in his career...) When looking at the big picture, while they don't contribute to making our streets safer, there's no ill intent to harm other users, 99% of the time.
To me this brings a different outlook on these blitzes. Sure there's a safety concern to some extent, but not to the point of demonizing groups of people who are whether trying to live healthier lives, or trying get from point A to point B.
Obviously the media likes to spin their stories to make it sound worse than it truly is.

 

[Evoex]

Cars are still plated, kill people, and get away with a tap on the freaking wrist. You can kill a whole family (4 people) and not even get a life sentence

Brady Robertson sentenced to 17 years in prison in crash that killed 3 kids, mother in Brampton

A Caledon man found guilty in a fatal crash that killed a mother and her three young daughters in Brampton almost two years ago was sentenced Monday.

toronto.citynews.ca

Teen driver handed 1-year custodial sentence after crash that killed 2 siblings in Vaughan - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

A speeding teen driver has been given a one-year custodial sentence after a crash in Vaughan last year that left two siblings, aged four and 10, dead.

globalnews.ca

Quebec man who killed family of four in drunk driving crash sentenced to 16 years

QUEBEC - A Quebec man who killed four members of the same family in a car crash last September in Quebec City has been handed one of the toughest sent...

www.thestar.com

And then we spend all this time complaining and being annoyed at cyclists riding through a stop sign while the road users being killed are just shrugged off by the system. As one of my LEO family members has mentioned, a lot of traffic enforcement is ticketing good people trying to get to work on time. (He dealt more with the serial killers, rapists, gangs in his career...) When looking at the big picture, while they don't contribute to making our streets safer, there's no ill intent to harm other users, 99% of the time.
To me this brings a different outlook on these blitzes. Sure there's a safety concern to some extent, but not to the point of demonizing groups of people who are whether trying to live healthier lives, or trying get from point A to point B.
Obviously the media likes to spin their stories to make it sound worse than it truly is.

Perhaps the LEO should spend more time observing the traffic conditions then discussing them. Last I checked, 4+ cars piling into a solid red left turn was the norm. At this rate we’ll have to make advance turns 3x in duration to offset how bad it’s getting.

 

[Dimitri]

Cars are still plated, kill people, and get away with a tap on the freaking wrist. You can kill a whole family (4 people) and not even get a life sentence

Which is wrong.

Obviously the media likes to spin their stories to make it sound worse than it truly is.

Eh, wait until you're walking downtown. Pushing your two kids in a stroller and cyclist attempts to run a red and nearly falls on the stroller when he tries to brake last second.

This city lacks real traffic enforcement for over a decade. Which has caused all road users to think they can do whatever they want.

 

[GreyGhost]

Which is wrong.



Eh, wait until you're walking downtown. Pushing your two kids in a stroller and cyclist attempts to run a red and nearly falls on the stroller when he tries to brake last second.

This city lacks real traffic enforcement for over a decade. Which has caused all road users to think they can do whatever they want.

Stroller full of cinder blocks seems like a reasonable compromise there. If the rider can't avoid people using the road legally while being an ass, they will learn.

 

[Baggsy]

Cars are still plated, kill people, and get away with a tap on the freaking wrist. You can kill a whole family (4 people) and not even get a life sentence

Brady Robertson sentenced to 17 years in prison in crash that killed 3 kids, mother in Brampton

A Caledon man found guilty in a fatal crash that killed a mother and her three young daughters in Brampton almost two years ago was sentenced Monday.

toronto.citynews.ca

Teen driver handed 1-year custodial sentence after crash that killed 2 siblings in Vaughan - Toronto | Globalnews.ca

A speeding teen driver has been given a one-year custodial sentence after a crash in Vaughan last year that left two siblings, aged four and 10, dead.

globalnews.ca

Quebec man who killed family of four in drunk driving crash sentenced to 16 years

QUEBEC - A Quebec man who killed four members of the same family in a car crash last September in Quebec City has been handed one of the toughest sent...

www.thestar.com

And then we spend all this time complaining and being annoyed at cyclists riding through a stop sign while the road users being killed are just shrugged off by the system. As one of my LEO family members has mentioned, a lot of traffic enforcement is ticketing good people trying to get to work on time. (He dealt more with the serial killers, rapists, gangs in his career...) When looking at the big picture, while they don't contribute to making our streets safer, there's no ill intent to harm other users, 99% of the time.
To me this brings a different outlook on these blitzes. Sure there's a safety concern to some extent, but not to the point of demonizing groups of people who are whether trying to live healthier lives, or trying get from point A to point B.
Obviously the media likes to spin their stories to make it sound worse than it truly is.

Nope. They're being cracked down on: Saudi man beheaded for stupid car stunt that killed two people

 

[LePhillou]

Nope. They're being cracked down on: Saudi man beheaded for stupid car stunt that killed two people

Unfortunately we have different standards when it comes to human rights in these parts

Eh, wait until you're walking downtown. Pushing your two kids in a stroller and cyclist attempts to run a red and nearly falls on the stroller when he tries to brake last second.

This city lacks real traffic enforcement for over a decade. Which has caused all road users to think they can do whatever they want.

My stroller was ran into by a car when i was 2. I would've flown out if it wasn't for my foot getting caught in the handle of the stroller. Only got a broken femur out of it, otherwise i wouldve been a nice splatter on the road.
And that was a in a city way smaller than toronto

Perhaps the LEO should spend more time observing the traffic conditions then discussing them. Last I checked, 4+ cars piling into a solid red left turn was the norm. At this rate we’ll have to make advance turns 3x in duration to offset how bad it’s getting.

Well once again, that's a design issue.
Funny thing i noticed, they don't have that behaviour in some other provinces as they design things differently. So you only turn when the arrow tells you to turn, otherwise you stay behind the "stopping" line. But then with that you'll also have a separate pedestrian light that all cars have to wait for (4 directions are red, they don't trust cars to do the right thing).

 

[Matt Rain]

nearly

I don't know this Nearly fella personally but he seems to show up in every cyclist vs car/pedestrian discussion. He sounds like a real hooligan.

 

[Matt Rain]

I nearly destroyed this sign with my bicycle this morning, just north of Lion's Head. Then I nearly caused dozens of car accidents by forcing cars to swerve around me for about 3 hours. How dare I. If only I could afford a car, I wouldn't have to do any of this. Sucks to be poor.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

I don't know this Nearly fella personally but he seems to show up in every cyclist vs car/pedestrian discussion. He sounds like a real hooligan.

It's Cam Zalewski, owner of My Little Bike Shop on College. Damn hooligan.

Canadian Cops Spent All Summer Tracking This Guy Down For Reckless Cycling

People of Toronto can rest easy tonight knowing this wheelie-popping bicycle badass has finally been identified and politely ordered to appear in court for his hijinks and tomfoolery. But seriously, turns out you can be charged with careless driving on a bicycle.

jalopnik.com

 

[Dimitri]

I don't know this Nearly fella personally but he seems to show up in every cyclist vs car/pedestrian discussion. He sounds like a real hooligan.

The guy dropped his bike and went within 6 in of my kids stroller. Any closer and I'd probably have been arrested for assault.

 

[LePhillou]

It's Cam Zalewski, owner of My Little Bike Shop on College. Damn hooligan.

Canadian Cops Spent All Summer Tracking This Guy Down For Reckless Cycling

People of Toronto can rest easy tonight knowing this wheelie-popping bicycle badass has finally been identified and politely ordered to appear in court for his hijinks and tomfoolery. But seriously, turns out you can be charged with careless driving on a bicycle.

jalopnik.com

Charges were dropped on him, that was a few years ago. The guys has a good lawyer
And the guy has a sweet freaking car too... hmm i mean 'he can't afford a car'

He posts his wheelie videos on his Instagram all day long breaking the law at every turn. If you thought cyclists stop signs were bad, look at what he does, he makes them look tame in comparison. It'll make you go shake you fist at a cloud like granpa simpson. Now he quintessentially represents "not giving a crap" about laws.