For an electrician putting together a toaster is no more complicated than putting together lego...there is plenty that can go wrong with building it yourself (if your not computer savvy) or even worse getting someone else to build it.
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For an electrician putting together a toaster is no more complicated than putting together lego...there is plenty that can go wrong with building it yourself (if your not computer savvy) or even worse getting someone else to build it.
That's hilarious that you are comparing the two...electricians need to be licensed due to the fact you can set your entire house on fire...you think your average geek squad guy is - do you actually think a newly built computer will explode...perhaps...if i stick a cpu into a pci slot maybe.
TVs and toasters aren't sold in modular parts that just insert into sockets. Building a computer is simpler than building a lego house. There's only a handful of parts in there.
If you know someone willing to build you a computer in the first place, then you know someone willing to fix said computer, lol.
No one should ever take a computer to Geek Squad. If there is a group that could make your new computer catch on fire, they are the ones.
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mac or pc...laptops or desktops...theyre all built from the same place...taiwan. I guarantee you the folks that assemble them, or even the so-called qualified ppl that run the assembly line...do you actually think theyre licensed electricians? lol...such things dont exist over there in asia.
mac or pc...laptops or desktops...theyre all built from the same place...taiwan. I guarantee you the folks that assemble them, or even the so-called qualified ppl that run the assembly line...do you actually think theyre licensed electricians? lol...such things dont exist over there in asia.
fair enough, lousy comparison...in the end, my pt was that it doesnt take a rocket scientist to assemble a pc.
Agreed. Been doing it since I was 12 and I've never been any kind of awesome hacker or anything. You just match the slots together, pretty much. Just like lego (I loved lego as a kid). Even easier now that most of the BIOS setup happens automatically (you used to have to manually set bus speeds and stuff) and serial ATA means you don't need to deal with master/slave configurations on hard drives or how to best arrange your drives on the cables to optimize for speed of certain operations.
Go ask your mom or your dad if they would want an AGP or PCI graphics card. Lets see how the OP deals with static electricity frying a CPU chip. Will they remember to use heat sink grease when installing that? Is the case's power switch properly connected to the motherboard? If you have plugged the switch into the wrong pins on the motherboard, it will not work. There are a million and one things that can go wrong....which for someone who isnt tech savvy can be a nightmare.
Let me know when Lego houses require heat sinks, and static electricity that can fry your CPU chip.
You're comparing a different level of tech savvyness now. If they cannot spec out their computer themselves, then by all means - prepackaged computer would be the way to go. If you can spec out the parts but you're uncomfortable building it - get someone else to do it - many ppl have these skills today, find someone you trust or is tech savvy enough to do it.
People who build prebuilt comps from the factory are no more qualified nor knowledgable than the average joe.
I have not assembled a pc in 10 years but if i had to buy one today, i'd probably just get one from Dell...just quicker and easier. From time to time, they have deals that just can't be beat even when considering diy assembly.
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Another vote for mac, especially since it looks like you just need it for everyday use. My macbook's going 3 years strong and it's still almost as fast as when I bought it. I'm still impressed that it managed to last this long, 'cause I usually go through computers every 2 years. Worth the money, imo 'cause every time I use a windows computer for everyday crap, I realize how much more convenient my mac is.
Lol Moreno, that was a pretty ridiculous analogy. Comparing a computer to a toaster/TV? C'mon, man...
Lol Moreno, that was a pretty ridiculous analogy. Comparing a computer to a toaster/TV? C'mon, man...
The heatsink snaps into place very easy and I've never fried any kind of chip despite taking absolutely no anti-static measures, ever. As long as you keep it in mind, maybe touch a metal tap before you start, you'll be fine. I usually work directly on carpet btw. Obviously, if you were going to attempt to build one, I'd assume you'd do a touch of reading to realize these issues (which are very minor). You wouldn't just go buy a pile of parts and have at 'er. Also, on the topic of the thermal grease, how do you know the monkey that built the machine didn't forget the goo?
Anyway, I wasn't really suggesting the OP do that, just wanted to say that it is REALLY easy so if he wanted to, it's not a huge deal.
On the topic of longevity, my last PC laptop lasted 3 years. The one before that 8. The one I am on right now is 7 years old (since the one that lasted 3 died). The perfectly functioning desktop computer I gave my friends last year is now 7 and I have another 6 yr old one that works in the room with me, too.
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I actually kinda liked the toaster analogy. Maybe it's because I take my toaster apart?
Anywho - kinda late on the reply, but heatsink installation has been simplified a bit in recent years. The worst was installing a heatsink on anything Socket A - those stupid clips where under enough tension to take out an eye. More than a few cracked the die of their CPUs putting those on ... now it's pretty easy, especially with the thermal pads that usually come with OEM heatsinks (yes, they're 'good enough', though I personally remove them).
Frying stuff with static can and does happen, though. You may escape it by luck if you're working in a ball pit wearing a wool sweater, but any time somebody's CPU, RAM, or video card mysteriously dies a few weeks or months after it was installed, I put my money on ESD being the culprit.
Anywho - kinda late on the reply, but heatsink installation has been simplified a bit in recent years. The worst was installing a heatsink on anything Socket A - those stupid clips where under enough tension to take out an eye. More than a few cracked the die of their CPUs putting those on ... now it's pretty easy, especially with the thermal pads that usually come with OEM heatsinks (yes, they're 'good enough', though I personally remove them).
Frying stuff with static can and does happen, though. You may escape it by luck if you're working in a ball pit wearing a wool sweater, but any time somebody's CPU, RAM, or video card mysteriously dies a few weeks or months after it was installed, I put my money on ESD being the culprit.
Been doing it, for a living, since something like 1989. Long enough that my first two employers have long since come off my resume. These days I'll let someone else do it for me, when it comes to a home PC.
*Correction* 1987; I pulled an old resume and checked.
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Why? Your not seriously trying to imply that a toaster is more complicated than a computer are you?
Not being able to speck out computer parts pretty much disqualifies the later.
They absolutely are, do something repeatedly for 8 hours a day 252 days a year and you will be better than the average joe at anything.
Exactly, and for someone who isnt computer savvy they would be dumbfounded trying to troubleshoot the issue, if they even get to the point of getting it working. It just makes no sense for someone who isnt very comfortable with computer parts and electronics (which is about 85% of the population) to attempt it.
The Acer arrived today and so far I'm loving it. Sooo much faster than my old PC. Now if I can only get my stupid itunes to copy over it'd be great (tried twice now, still no luck).
putting together a computer (once you're past the what parts do i get) is easy. fixing software issues is not as easy, you pretty much have to have a second computer and be very savvy with finding fixes and following sometimes not so great instructions that often assume you know what you're doing. if i told the average person to delete the xyz key from their registry they wouldn't have a clue. i'd have to tell them how to get to the point where they can type in a program name, spell out regedit for them, coach them on expanding the trees and then tell them how to right click on the key or entry we want to delete/modify. i used to build computers for my mom. last computer i gave her was a mac.
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