Chris-CJ
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GG has aptly summarized the answer to your question.
In short, after-market anti virus programs are a roll of the dice.
None of my machines run any of these programs.
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Are you switching to Windows 11?
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In short, after-market anti virus programs are a roll of the dice.
None of my machines run any of these programs.
The last one I built for work I wanted to be fast, small and quiet. Not a simple combination. I managed to get a Noctua D15 and video card stuffed into a fractal core 500. It's cozy and required unconventional air routing but it works great. I was a few mm short on interior space so I had to mount the exhaust fan to the outside of the rear of the case. Some of the work requires lots of computations so it's a 12 core. Not many office computers configured remotely like this. For general use, off-lease or mikes cheap SFF computers make a ton of sense.
Chris-CJ
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WIN 7 was a good release.
With WIN 11, MS is playing the Mac game i.e. bringing in hardware specs for O/S eligibility - before, the key word was "recommended", now it is "must have".
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A lot of the crap that gets into the computer is the result of the end-users behavior.
Don't open an "invoice" that you are not expecting.
Don't click on a link to learn how to increase the size of your.......
Use some common sense......
Shaman
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I've been using Linux on my desktop at work since about 1999. Before that I used a mix of Solaris and Windows. There's been ups and downs but overall, the Linux desktop experience has been great for me. The only issue that I've had with it is that graphics/video gaming has been a crapshoot since the big boys (nVidia & AMD) have done a very poor job of supporting Linux - I understand why, Microsoft poison-pilled their drivers with intellectual property that is required for the best experience, and the manufacturers have had to make agreements for binary-only availability that breaks with newer kernel releases etc. Things are better now, and some video systems (Intel's, in particular) are fully up to speed.
So I've run Windows as a game system and general program loader for years at home. But with Windows 10 I nearly ducked out, with Windows 11 I'm done. No way am I running that pile of garbage on a computer... watching your every move, denying you any privacy, throwing advertisements in your face and generally getting in the way of your computing tasks. @#$& that. A computer is a device that is supposed to work FOR and WITH you, not for Microsoft and their corporate pals.
So I've run Windows as a game system and general program loader for years at home. But with Windows 10 I nearly ducked out, with Windows 11 I'm done. No way am I running that pile of garbage on a computer... watching your every move, denying you any privacy, throwing advertisements in your face and generally getting in the way of your computing tasks. @#$& that. A computer is a device that is supposed to work FOR and WITH you, not for Microsoft and their corporate pals.
Shaman
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I have a computer that meets all the specs (high-end video card, 4.5Ghz 12-core CPU) but doesn't have "secure boot," which is their attempt to force people not to use multiple OS on the computer (again). So I couldn't load Win11 on this box if I wanted to. It has nothing to do with the performance of the computer, this thing remains a beast.
I really like the Tiny FF that Lenovo offers. I often mount them to the back of the monitor using the Vesa mount. Looks sleek and clean. (I HATE VISIBLE CABLES) All the computing power that you need for basic use.
Dell Tiny with power supply etc mounted behind this monitor
@GreyGhost
As for your Fractal 500
I may have a similar case that I will be getting rid of. Currently in a pile of stuff I need to purge.
Might be slightly bigger but may fit your needs well. Black aluminum as well. Easy to work on as both side panels come off.
My wife gets burned occasionally by IT conducting fishing tests. I understand the concept but I don't like their execution. They'll send an email like "New IT policy regarding fishing" that is formatted similarly to the rest of their emails and if click the link they burn you and tell you to be more careful and if you fail again there may be employment consequences. Umm, if there are dangerous links coming through corporate emails, that is an IT problem. The first line of defense should be IT scrubbing that crap before users have a chance to screw up.
See if you can turn on fTPM in bios. That gives you secure boot without the additional physical chip.
BIOS update may be required
Have you tried loading windows through GRUB?
DownUnder
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If we fail phishing scams we have to do online training that gets progressively harder and takes longer to complete each time IT gets you. Got caught once by a perfect storm, was just speaking to a manager about a topic the day before and the phishing email happened to be about the exact topic from a person that would have been in the chain to begin with... I thought my manager set me up so had a go at him joking that he was a mongrel but he was oblivious
You can lock it down... and then the peasants revolt. They have to have their stupid "apps" to do their jobs (NO THEY DON'T) (if you think email is insecure DO NOT look at the security of "apps"... written by a 14 yr old).
If you tell an end user "NEVER click that"... you can be assured they click that the moment you leave... EVERY TIME.
When I first started in "computers" my mentor told me: When you think you've got it idiot proof, they come up with a better idiot.
That has served me well.
It was mainly bought to use Aperture as I really liked it. That and mac trackpads were miles better than PC until about that time. When Apple killed off aperture and trackpads on PC became good I have no great reason to continue to use mac. It gets used some but not much.
POWERMAN
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I like Proofpoint. Abnormal appears to be making a name for itself lately as well. Not cheap though...
I still run my W-7 and find W-10 like moving to a different city and having to buy a GPS to find stuff.
Please don't go to W-11.
It will feel like you are in a different country, speaking a different language.
Even the GPS will not give out instructions in English.
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My W-11 Acer was around $300 without MS Office. It is so bare bones it is useless for office stuff. It only gets used for financial transactions. My W-10. MacBook, W-7 and iphone can handle the surfing. The savings from not having to buy anti virus pays for the Acer in a few years. It's a bit clumsy but the W-7 goes away soon to clear desk space.
POWERMAN
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At work we had an old pc running Windows 98. Was just used to store CNC programs. No need to upgrade.
As long as you dont connect to the internet or plug in USBs - you should be good!
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