Relax
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Whatever happened to the days when 640 kb was all anyone would ever need?
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Are you switching to Windows 11?
- Thread starter Chris-CJ
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Whatever happened to the days when 640 kb was all anyone would ever need?
I recall paying $1000 for a meg of RAM early on.
You read that correctly
..my RAM supplier moved his place to an old bank to have access to a vault when he suffered an armed robbery.
I had a rather dodgy RAM supplier later that would meet me at Swiss Chalet where I would exchange thousands of dollars in cash for little cellophane packets...
You gotta know what THAT looked like.
I recall one transaction I made $3k walking a tray of RAM from my supplier to my customer.
Times change.
One thing I do like about the M-series Macs - 8 gb of RAM is all you need.
You read that correctly
Macintosh Classic
resolution, and 4 megabyte (MB) memory limit of the older Macintosh computers. Apple's decision to not update the Classic with newer technology such as .....my RAM supplier moved his place to an old bank to have access to a vault when he suffered an armed robbery.
I had a rather dodgy RAM supplier later that would meet me at Swiss Chalet where I would exchange thousands of dollars in cash for little cellophane packets...
You gotta know what THAT looked like.
I recall one transaction I made $3k walking a tray of RAM from my supplier to my customer.
Times change.
One thing I do like about the M-series Macs - 8 gb of RAM is all you need.
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I had to drive to Buffalo to buy a 10mb harddrive, wasn't available in Canada. 1986 maybe... $1670 USD for sure, 'bout $11,000 CDN today. YES, ten mega BYTES.
I remember thinking; WHAT AM I GONNA DO WITH TEN MEG? 10 mb was like throwing open the back door and storing data in the back yard. I could rent space out
You could heat the house with it and it sounded like a jet, it weighed about 10 lbs.
COOLEST THING EVER.
I used to support DOS websites... NO... websites that RAN on DOS. Anyone else remember EDLIN?
I remember thinking; WHAT AM I GONNA DO WITH TEN MEG? 10 mb was like throwing open the back door and storing data in the back yard. I could rent space out
You could heat the house with it and it sounded like a jet, it weighed about 10 lbs.
COOLEST THING EVER.
I used to support DOS websites... NO... websites that RAN on DOS. Anyone else remember EDLIN?
ifiddles
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so can someone put it in the easiest terms possible for a layman...I use my desktop for surfing the internet (Facebook, GTAM, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon etc) as well as writing report cards, banking, spreadsheets, word documents, making videos using ClipChamp...do I have to upgrade and if so, how? I don't understand all this stuff you guys are talking about...
My desktop was purchased in Jan. 2017 and can't be upgraded to W11, and I'm not interested in a hack to make it work.
It's a Dell 8910, Intel i7-6700, Passmark CPU score of about 8100, 2T HD, 250 Samsung SSD, 16 GB RAM, decent graphics card and a 27" 4k monitor. Has worked well, never any issues. Set up for games at that time, but interest faded.
My Roger's connection is 1.5 GB, but my network is CAT5e and is maxed out at 1 GB. $66.66 / month with HST BTW. So no real limitations re download bandwidth.
My needs are pretty minimal. Internet, email, relatively simple Excel spreadsheets. I'm still happy with the system performance and speed.
My relatively new low end laptop runs W11 and I'm OK with it. It's basically a read only device for internet and email.
So.................. desktop system is 8 years old and I'll probably replace the box sometime in the next 6 months. I'll be keeping the monitor, very happy with it. Truth be told is that if W10 was not sunsetting I'd probably just keep it for another couple of years.
My SIL got a new high end Intel system about 12 - 14 months ago, i7-13700KF, 32 GB RAM, 2T SSD, liguid cooled, Passmark CPU score of about 46,500. RTX 4070, High end gaming system. Very fast. Don't need this much horsepower, but nice to have I suppose and you do have to keep up with the Jones............. So, we'll see.
My 99 year old MIL has an all in one PC that was running W10 and upgraded itself to W11, She's OK with W11. Her 97 year old sister has a new all in one PC running W11 and she happy with that too. Both ladies use their computers for Zoom church meetings, internet, email and variuos card games. About $850 each and perfectly good units for the casual user.
It's a Dell 8910, Intel i7-6700, Passmark CPU score of about 8100, 2T HD, 250 Samsung SSD, 16 GB RAM, decent graphics card and a 27" 4k monitor. Has worked well, never any issues. Set up for games at that time, but interest faded.
My Roger's connection is 1.5 GB, but my network is CAT5e and is maxed out at 1 GB. $66.66 / month with HST BTW. So no real limitations re download bandwidth.
My needs are pretty minimal. Internet, email, relatively simple Excel spreadsheets. I'm still happy with the system performance and speed.
My relatively new low end laptop runs W11 and I'm OK with it. It's basically a read only device for internet and email.
So.................. desktop system is 8 years old and I'll probably replace the box sometime in the next 6 months. I'll be keeping the monitor, very happy with it. Truth be told is that if W10 was not sunsetting I'd probably just keep it for another couple of years.
My SIL got a new high end Intel system about 12 - 14 months ago, i7-13700KF, 32 GB RAM, 2T SSD, liguid cooled, Passmark CPU score of about 46,500. RTX 4070, High end gaming system. Very fast. Don't need this much horsepower, but nice to have I suppose and you do have to keep up with the Jones............. So, we'll see.
My 99 year old MIL has an all in one PC that was running W10 and upgraded itself to W11, She's OK with W11. Her 97 year old sister has a new all in one PC running W11 and she happy with that too. Both ladies use their computers for Zoom church meetings, internet, email and variuos card games. About $850 each and perfectly good units for the casual user.
Chris-CJ
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Banking?
Then you definitely need a computer that will receive security updates.
As of Oct 2025 (or Oct 2026, if you pay for the extended support), computers running WIN 10 will stop receiving updates.
Based on your stated usage, you may want to (a) check if your current machine can be upgraded to WIN 11 or (b) if option "a" is not possible, then buy a computer that has WIN 11, the more expensive machines that can deal with AI instructions are an option, but you can probably get by with a machine that is not that advanced and costs less.
OR
switch to a Linux platform, it will work for your stated needs and can probably be set up on your existing machine. Linux is free and has better security some of the iterations are very similar to Windows in their user interface.
Good luck with your choice!
The Win10 laptop that I registry-edited to get it to install Win11, is on 24H2. I just checked ... it's the one that I'm typing at right now.
This may vary case-to-case, depending on the reason why the computer complains that Win11 upgrade is not available. It appears that mine was due to a very minor technicality of some sort, the details of which I am absolutely not tech-savvy enough to figure out.
Mbp with all the boxes checked. Things like 1tb ssd. Not impressive now but iirc it is from 2013.
Youngster.
I remember using a datasette with a Commodore VIC-20.
When we got an Apple ][ (clone), it came with a single 180K floppy drive.
LUXURY!
Only Legends will understand the importance of this:
It's still a very useable machine. Why is sitting there unused?
Will run PC software native if 8 gb of ram
New battery and RAM are very cheap these days. You would have paid a ton for 1TB SSD then...not anymore.
I don't run anything that late. Mojave is my goto on all my machines
Mom's expensive but older Mac stopped working and it's too outdated for Apple to support it anymore so it was a brick. I sent her a new Acer windows machine during the Black Friday sales and she loves it.
My old Acer windows machine running 10 worked fine but took about 2min to startup (it was about 10yrs old) so I ordered a Acer Aspire 5 windows 11 machine and it's lovely. Win 11 is different but all I use it for is surfing running itrader platforms and I'm fine with the change.
My old Acer windows machine running 10 worked fine but took about 2min to startup (it was about 10yrs old) so I ordered a Acer Aspire 5 windows 11 machine and it's lovely. Win 11 is different but all I use it for is surfing running itrader platforms and I'm fine with the change.
Started using computers summer of 1984. Don't recall the brand name. Had 8" floppy for the OS and same for data. Tiny monochrome monitor.
I purchased an XT clone in 1985. 640k RAM, 10 MB HD and monochrome monitor. A year later spent about $300 for a ATI Wonder graphics card, $400 for a colour monitor and then $600 for a Brother wide carriage dot matrix printer. Big bucks in those days.
I purchased an XT clone in 1985. 640k RAM, 10 MB HD and monochrome monitor. A year later spent about $300 for a ATI Wonder graphics card, $400 for a colour monitor and then $600 for a Brother wide carriage dot matrix printer. Big bucks in those days.
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Sadly most anti-virus programs are circling the drain imo. They are closer to viruses than most things you may get infected with. While many started off good, they were purchased by VC or worse. I used to really like bitdefender. It is uber dodgy now. Mcafee has been questionable for a long time. Malwarebytes seems to have gone significantly downhill. I haven't looked at AVG in years so I have no comment.
As for "can anti-virus protect me", the answer is maybe. The problem with new exploits that aren't patched is the exploit may follow a path that no anti-virus software can intercept.
oh man, those were the days,
cut my teeth on a Commodore Pet with cassette drive, then the whole series, Vic20, C64, with 1541 floppy disk drive, Amiga 500 with 3.5" diskette
then the big boy leages, Pentium computer with ATI Mach 64 graphics!
Roland was my printer of choice back then,
Most of my PC's are Win10 and only 1 is Win11.
Reality is that we are all just goin to get used to the new Win11. Just as we hated and got used to Win10 when Win7 (my fav) was being phased out.
I have access to well priced off lease equipment so I never buy new anymore. It may be a couple of years old a few generation of CPU behind but for the basic needs, its not really noticeable. Plus, its easy to swap out component to increase performance.
Reality is that we are all just goin to get used to the new Win11. Just as we hated and got used to Win10 when Win7 (my fav) was being phased out.
I have access to well priced off lease equipment so I never buy new anymore. It may be a couple of years old a few generation of CPU behind but for the basic needs, its not really noticeable. Plus, its easy to swap out component to increase performance.
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