So can you make an argument for a CEO being worth a salary of 100s of millions in some cases? Could you honestly say that someone couldn’t do the same job for 10 million?
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Anybody tired of the Teacher's Strikes?
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So can you make an argument for a CEO being worth a salary of 100s of millions in some cases? Could you honestly say that someone couldn’t do the same job for 10 million?
No question. But throwing money at teacher salaries does nothing to fix any problem.
Canada is #1 in the OECD ranking of educated countries. Every part of our education system has a hand in that. There’s always room for improvement but I don’t think you get improvement by taking away incentives unless you use force or threat.
I don't agree with that either, but if the free market wants to pay it, that's their choice. No different than professional athletes. I don't see how someone that shoots a puck is worth $10mil/year, and as such I don't buy tickets to pay those salaries, but many, many people do.
Don't want the Walton's to have the profit of a small countries GDP, don't shop at Walmart.
Where did you find Canada at #1 ?
20 Best Education System in the World - Edsys
Education has the same qualities but different systems worldwide. In this article, we will learn about 20 such Best Education System in the World.
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How Much Teachers Make Around the World — and Where the US Ranks
Do educators elsewhere make more or less than those in the U.S.?
Where did you find Canada at #1 ?
20 Best Education System in the World - Edsys
Education has the same qualities but different systems worldwide. In this article, we will learn about 20 such Best Education System in the World.
most educated countries...proportion of adults with an education at a certain level.
OECD rankings.
Your education list also looks at efficiencies. Cost per outcome, it’s partly why the US is on that list I suspect due to lower teacher salaries.
Most educated and best education are vastly different. If everyone got a degree in basket weaving that would make us most educated as well.
Isn't efficiencies what you want? The USA spends more per capita on public health care than Canada does (a lot more), do you think their public health care is better than ours?
ricplayer
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You are not alone, this sounds like any other corporate jobs at that salary level.
People in private sector jobs deal with interpersonal issues, unruly colleagues, long hours, motivating team members, P&L demands, ROI demands, long hours, stressful deadlines, long hours etc etc. It’s called work for a reason, if we are lucky, we get three weeks holiday per year, no Christmas break or March breaks.
My teacher friend would always complain that she couldn’t come with us on vacation in February, really complained about it, but would then spend 6 weeks straight sunning herself at her cottage during the summer, while her PS friends were working.
Point being that every job has its challenges, but we hear about teachers the most.
ricplayer
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Not at all, I know a CEO of a prominent consumer electronics company that we all know of, who ended up painting houses after his corporate demise. You are drinking the unions Koolaid.
No Koolaid....personal frontline experience. I worked in that company.
F3800RC
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amazing how many people care what a ceo makes but suck the balls ,kiss the ass and don’t seem to care about idiot athletes and movie stars salaries
ScorpionT16
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Teachers and students here don't realize how good they have it. I grew up in Kenya, school started at 6.45am, ended at 5pm, I remember getting beat up in school (by the teachers, that was discipline), detention was humiliation and kneeling all day, If the teacher beat a kid, the parents blame the kid for making a mistake. From kindergarten onward, students are ranked according to their grades and it's made open, so everyone know's whose dumb and who is smart to pick on. Needless to say, when moving here the learning material was years behind, what was taught there in Grade 3, they teach in grade 6 here.
Teachers got little to no money there unless they were in the private sector, the teachers worked 3x harder than the ones I had here to make sure all the students lead a better life than them, even if it was disciplined.
my neighbor is a teacher, she lives the most chill life I know, spend holidays in Florida, got an RV to chill on weekends up North, great benefits and retirement plans, she's always gardening in the summer and couldn't be happier.
Teachers got little to no money there unless they were in the private sector, the teachers worked 3x harder than the ones I had here to make sure all the students lead a better life than them, even if it was disciplined.
my neighbor is a teacher, she lives the most chill life I know, spend holidays in Florida, got an RV to chill on weekends up North, great benefits and retirement plans, she's always gardening in the summer and couldn't be happier.
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Current spending is ~$12,200 per student according to the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation.
At 25 students, that's $300,000 per year, per class. ~80% of which goes to various salaries.
Enrollment has been going down, but went up last year.
Ford increased Education spending by 1.2 billion dollars over what Wynne spent.
For me the main issue isn't funding, but getting the kids all onboard with getting along and learning.
Kids appear to be getting meaner in the class.
There appear to be more special needs kids in the classes.
Borderline kids may imitate the behaviour of others who are misbehaving, exacerbating the problem.
Wynne increased funding to try and address the in classroom issues.
The issues haven't gone away.
Current spending is ~$12,200 per student according to the Canadian Taxpayers' Federation.
At 25 students, that's $300,000 per year, per class. ~80% of which goes to various salaries.
Enrollment has been going down, but went up last year.
Ford increased Education spending by 1.2 billion dollars over what Wynne spent.
For me the main issue isn't funding, but getting the kids all onboard with getting along and learning.
Kids appear to be getting meaner in the class.
There appear to be more special needs kids in the classes.
Borderline kids may imitate the behaviour of others who are misbehaving, exacerbating the problem.
Wynne increased funding to try and address the in classroom issues.
The issues haven't gone away.
I am not absolutely sure there’s more special needs kids. Many have always been there just undiagnosed. What we have now is more diagnoses and a whole career set based around these diagnoses. I have a sneaking suspicion that some kids with special needs are just badly brought up, then medicated which may then result in them having actual special needs. Look up prescription rates of adderall in different countries and see what I mean.
F3800RC
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No denying parental failures are raising idiots who get a pass by being prescribed drugs instead of being called out on being a brat with bad parents ....many today want to be victims and have some kind of “disease “ from lactose intolerant to ADD to allergies . Mostly fake and self diagnosed on the internet . Also encouraged by society and doctors who say it’s not your fault you just need medication.
A good beating now and again for the kids and parents would cure that crap fast .
i was sent to boarding school at 7 years old ( cue the jokes about how my parents didn’t like me) .......parents these days think their 25 year old is a kid who needs to be spoon fed still. Sad how weak people have become and how they wear that weakness as a badge of honor.
Agree mostly with one small thing, most adults are indeed lactose intolerant to some degree! We are the only mammal that drinks another mammal's milk regularly beyond infancy and we aren't evolved to do that efficiently. The giant dairy lobbyists know this and work hard against it.
I used to think like the above. Our first child was so well behaved and compliant. Then we had the twins. Don't worry, when you have your "nightmare" child, all us "bad" parents will be around to support you. Every child is different. Some are compliant, and some are defiant.
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