Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

PrivatePilot said:
The difference being Japanese and Korean (etc) manufacturers actually setup plants here and build cars here. And pay living wages.

Let me know when all these new Chinese car makers plan to do the same. The answer will be basically, never….because they’d not only lose the price advantage by being forced to actually compete on a level playing field, but they’d also loose all that sweet, sweet CCP money since there’s no way North America would let all that shadowy money just flow over here to clearly subsidize plants on foreign soil.
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Anybody remember when Geeley / Geely was at the automotive show in Detroit 15-20 years ago? I sure do, and they were parts bin special with lights from Toyota, interior from Honda, and a handful of other manufacturers cobbled together.

Where are they now? Wanted to enter the market with such fanfare...only to sizzle out.

One item is safety standards didn't meet, secondly...they looked, and were put together horribly.

Times have changed for sure, but if we were to allow the Chinese EVs to enter our market...let them do it without being propped up by CPP money. See how they actually do, and ensure that they build a manufacturing facility within North America.

Let's see how they do on a level playing field (I'm not implying that all industries don't get supported by govt's to make them competitive on a world wide scale).
 
SunnY S said:
Im glad they allowed the japanese to bring their great cars here.

otherwise Id be stuck driving a malibu.



As for "import" manufacturers hurting the economy?

BTW, In 2022, Toyota assembled the most vehicles of any manufacturer in Canada (building more vehicles than the Ford and General Motors combined) and Honda was the third largest producer out of the five Canadian vehicle manufacturers.

globalautomakers.ca

Home - Global Automakers of Canada

Press Releases ABOUT GLOBAL AUTOMAKERS OF CANADA Global Automakers of Canada (GAC) is the national trade association representing the Canadian interests of 15 of the world’s most respected automakers. Our members include: BMW Canada Inc, Honda Canada Inc., Hyundai Auto Canada Corp., Jaguar
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The focus in the thread isn't about "import manufacturers", it's about China.
 
mimico_polak said:
Anybody remember when Geeley / Geely was at the automotive show in Detroit 15-20 years ago? I sure do, and they were parts bin special with lights from Toyota, interior from Honda, and a handful of other manufacturers cobbled together.

Where are they now? Wanted to enter the market with such fanfare...only to sizzle out.
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You may want to look up how many brands Geely owns now. You'll recognize a few of them. Huge company.
 
PrivatePilot said:
This is what I don't get about people who "rah rah" Chinese everything, including cars. It's literally shooting ourselves in our feet and then it's a race to the bottom. You can't compete with a country that pumps government money into industry in order to dominate and eliminate, pays basically poverty wages to it's people, has next to no safety standards in many cases, and treats people like easily replaceable (disposable, one might argue in many cases) automatons.

The auto industry employees about 4.5 million people in north america. Let the market flood with cheap chinese cars and almost all of those jobs are at risk...as good as gone most would say. But the CCP will get what they ultimately want, further control over North America.
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Capitalism treats workers as a resource there to be exploited but the ccp takes it to a higher level.
www.forbes.com

Workers In China Have Their Own Version Of Quiet Quitting And Acting Your Wage: ‘Huminerals’ Are Extracted, Exploited And Disposed Of

A new term “humineral” went viral on the Chinese internet and is now subjected to censorship. It is a person who is “exploited by society until they are eventually discarded on the refuse pile.”
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I care about how much Elon Musk is worth about as much as I care about what the King had for desert tonight in his grand ballroom at Windsor Castle, which is flying F all.

If he was doing anything good aside from destroying society with his billions maybe I'd give two sh!ts, but the pendulum on billionaires that do good for society with their money vs the ones that are total idiots bent on sowing discord in society, and now, as is the case with Musk, working to subvert democracy even, swings heavily towards the latter.

Bill Gates? Good human being. He's giving away his billions to charities and worthy philanthropic causes.

What's Musk doing with his billions? Turning Twitter into his own personal cesspool of hatred, lies, misinformation, and division, donates to "charity" in the most shady way possible, and this:

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Even the frigin' Waltons from Walmart do better things with their money and are generally better people.

I don't get how anyone, anywhere can still praise this absolute turd of a human being anymore after who he's shown himself to be in the last few years.

Now lets move on from this before this thread gets overtly political, lets not get the thread locked or booted to Trash Talk which will do nobody any good.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I care about how much Elon Musk is worth about as much as I care about what the King had for desert tonight in his grand ballroom at Windsor Castle, which is flying F all.

If he was doing anything good aside from destroying society with his billions maybe I'd give two sh!ts, but the pendulum on billionaires that do good for society with their money vs the ones that are total idiots bent on sowing discord in society, and now, as is the case with Musk, working to subvert democracy even, swings heavily towards the latter.

Bill Gates? Good human being. He's giving away his billions to charities and worthy philanthropic causes.

What's Musk doing with his billions? Turning Twitter into his own personal cesspool of hatred, lies, misinformation, and division, donates to "charity" in the most shady way possible, and this:

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Even the frigin' Waltons from Walmart do better things with their money and are generally better people.

I don't get how anyone, anywhere can still praise this absolute turd of a human being anymore after who he's shown himself to be in the last few years.

Now lets move on from this before this thread gets overtly political, lets not get the thread locked or booted to Trash Talk which will do nobody any good.
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Sounds like elon is living rent free in your head. :D
 
danp said:
Sounds like elon is living rent free in your head. :D
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Couldn’t be further from the truth, actually, but unfortunately he constantly gets barfed up in this thread.
 
Tesla cybertruck reservation list is officially exhausted. Approximately 2% of those with reservations bought one. The other 98% aren't going to.

www.torquenews.com

In the End, Only 2.5% of Cybertruck Reservation Holders Decided to Buy the Truck as Tesla Officially Finishes the Cybertruck Reservation List

Tesla has officially ended the Cybertruck reservation program in the US, as the EV maker exhausted the entire reservation list. Ultimately, only 2.5% of Cybertruck reservation holders went ahead and bought the truck.
www.torquenews.com www.torquenews.com
 
FullMotoJacket said:
And, back to compressed gasses.

jalopnik.com

Trump Keeps Claiming Hydrogen Cars Will Blow Up His Audience

It's almost like the man's mind is completely gone or something
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Almost? ALMOST? You're idea of almost and my idea of almost are a bit different.
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And a related piece below the one you posted…

jalopnik.com

Don’t Follow A Hyundai Nexo Too Closely, You May Be Driving In A Cloud Of Flammable Hydrogen Gas

Hyundai is recalling 1,545 Nexos for a faulty safety device that can crack and release hydrogen gas
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Tesla cybertruck reservation list is officially exhausted. Approximately 2% of those with reservations bought one. The other 98% aren't going to.

www.torquenews.com

In the End, Only 2.5% of Cybertruck Reservation Holders Decided to Buy the Truck as Tesla Officially Finishes the Cybertruck Reservation List

Tesla has officially ended the Cybertruck reservation program in the US, as the EV maker exhausted the entire reservation list. Ultimately, only 2.5% of Cybertruck reservation holders went ahead and bought the truck.
www.torquenews.com www.torquenews.com
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Probably mostly due to them jacking up the price. Tesla originally said the base model would start at 40k, yet as of today the cheapest version is 82k.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Someone in the hydrogen lobby gave him a big fat donation and injected some talking points into his stream of consciousness. It’ll be gone by tomorrow.
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?

Do you mean someone in the oil lobby gave him a big fat donation? He's dissing hydrogen cars......this week.
 
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