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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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JTR
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That's because contrary to the belief of most people posting in this thread, the Volt IS NOT an EV. It's a hybrid, for people that commute a total of 100km tops in a day but still think the need 1000 mile range.
Yeah, in hindsight Ferrari was a bad example, but you get my point - Tesla has not positioned themselves in the supercar market, they've positioned themselves in the BMW, Porche, and Mercedes segment. People expect quality in that segment.
Looks like Chevrolet is nicely positioned in initial quality (just a few points behind Toyota, and only one behind BMW, nice), and hey, Kia is doing something right. Looks like Honda and Acura need to pull up their socks a little though.
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Doesn't burn a drop of gas in EV mode. At the bare minimum for people who drive exclusively in EV mode it'll burn about half a tank (15L or so) every year (until the old fuel is diluted with new fuel) as it's programmed to ensure the fuel doesn't go stale and start to gum things up.
As for the whole EV1 thing, that's ancient history by EV standards - it used lead acid batteries which has been surpassed countless times over in ability by Lithium Ion. The EV1 was revolutionary in it's day, agreed, but it's loss has done nothing to set back todays EV's.
Perhaps you've missed the Bolt?
Not much of a fan of them either, but what's your go-to source for reliability info?
Of course, surprise surprise, when the data doesn't fit your leanings, just discount said data and/or call it fake.
I seem to know someone with funny hair who does this a lot.
Hey, side note this evening - one of our trip meters just surpassed 4000KM since I last reset it. Average fuel economy over that distance shows as 3.1L/100KM.
Further to that, in the last 3 weekends of driving (Saturday and Sundays combined) we have used only 3L of gas total - all the miles short of a few (and we do a lot on weekends) were all on dirt cheap off peak/weekend electricity rates.
Loving it.
Further to that, in the last 3 weekends of driving (Saturday and Sundays combined) we have used only 3L of gas total - all the miles short of a few (and we do a lot on weekends) were all on dirt cheap off peak/weekend electricity rates.
Loving it.
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I've always found Consumer Reports consistent with their findings.
I'm not talking about their auto reviews, those are just opinions like any other car mag, but when they do their actual surveys of owners with the actual cars and compile the data.
At the back of their car issue, or their annual buyers guide, they list just about every make and model of car along with the famous red and black dot circle ratings covering all the major aspects of the vehicle (engine, transmission, body, etc)
Although their ratings aren't totally flawless, I've always found them remarkably and fairly consistent over the years....
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Agree, again.
So let's look at what they say:
http://www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/car-reliability-survey-2016/
If you want to compare by nameplate, Buick is 3rd, ahead of Honda or Hyundai. But they point out it doesn't make sense to rate brands as there's more variability between models, between fresh platforms and old ones, and between highly equiped models and base models.
If you want to compare by model, there's a link there to the top 10, which features the Cruze and no Honda or Hyundai.
If you have a link to the full ranking of models for more insight, feel free to share.
I understand it quite well, thanks, but the Volt is the compromise that makes an EV acceptable for many people who want the benefits of an EV whenever they can, but need the practicality of ICE when required.
Elimination of range anxiety (which someone made a flipping fuss about earlier in this thread) is a strong selling point.
As I've said recently in this thread, we will likely buy a Bolt in 3-4 years when they depreciate down to a price where it makes economic sense. Between now and then I'd say there's a good chance there will be a second Volt in our driveway however.
slowbird
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Thanks for posting that Tesla link PP. Quite the eye opener.
I agree with Sunny that yeah, most people who own Teslas are probably leasing them and don't worry too much about warranties running out.
But I keep reading gripes from owners that for a $100,000+ vehicle it's lacking in interior amenities and initial quality.
I'd be ****** if I had a $130k Tesla like the one in that C&D article and had to deal with 3 faulty drivers seats, and the sunroof dribbling on me.
...and the slow software of the radio/touchscreen would drive me BONKERS.
I agree with Sunny that yeah, most people who own Teslas are probably leasing them and don't worry too much about warranties running out.
But I keep reading gripes from owners that for a $100,000+ vehicle it's lacking in interior amenities and initial quality.
I'd be ****** if I had a $130k Tesla like the one in that C&D article and had to deal with 3 faulty drivers seats, and the sunroof dribbling on me.
...and the slow software of the radio/touchscreen would drive me BONKERS.
#1 problem right there. I was looking at a $100 tablet for media consumption, and after 10 seconds of playing with it in a store it was clear that I would smash it in frustration.
I don't know why automakers haven't figured out that responsiveness is the most important part of an interface even if that means sacrificing some features. Give me the basic climate control/radio/seat heater controls as physical controls. If you put anything in a menu that gets used daily you should be dragged out back and shot until they have a team that gets it.
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Fisher Price effect...add colorful "buttons" to the touchscreen.
Dials are old tech...touchscreen is the new deal dontcha know...come on man, you want a model T/S next...
Try the tablet again and add an app called car home ultra or put it in drive/car mode.
It changes the interface immensely.
My wife made it almost all the way to work today on battery - literally only Kilometers away. She sent me an excited text about it, LOL. Glad to see her getting into it.
One thing is for sure, this mornings temperatures were in the sweet spot for the battery.
One thing is for sure, this mornings temperatures were in the sweet spot for the battery.
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