One of the reasons I didn't buy a gen 1 was the lack of headroom
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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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Damn, what year Volt is yours again? A 2015 with the 17.1kwh battery (a full 1.1kw more than mine in the 2012) I could understand this from.
In the end, what did you actually *get* for Kilometers out of that charge though?
I have seen our Volt read over 70KM on the guess-o-meter but have never yet been able to crack that nut - unfortunately no matter how efficiently you try to drive all it takes is a few red lights causing you to have to stop and start again (vs just cruising at a steady speed) as well as hills etc and the highest I've ever seen was what I posted last Saturday - a shade under 68KM, which I might mention is still exceptional for a Gen1 that is only technically rated by GM themselves for 56KM.
I know I will crack the 70KM barrier soon once mother nature decides it's not April anymore and warms up, though. Again, I'm super pleased with that.
Given that however I could totally see you getting 80K (or darn near) it with an extra 1.1KWH of battery at your disposal, again, assuming you have the 2015.
In the end, what did you actually *get* for Kilometers out of that charge though?
I have seen our Volt read over 70KM on the guess-o-meter but have never yet been able to crack that nut - unfortunately no matter how efficiently you try to drive all it takes is a few red lights causing you to have to stop and start again (vs just cruising at a steady speed) as well as hills etc and the highest I've ever seen was what I posted last Saturday - a shade under 68KM, which I might mention is still exceptional for a Gen1 that is only technically rated by GM themselves for 56KM.
I know I will crack the 70KM barrier soon once mother nature decides it's not April anymore and warms up, though. Again, I'm super pleased with that.
Given that however I could totally see you getting 80K (or darn near) it with an extra 1.1KWH of battery at your disposal, again, assuming you have the 2015.
Mine's a 2014. My commute only eats up about 55 km so I always end up with juice in the tank so can't say for sure what I'd actually get.
I'm tempted to see how much more I can get but I am adjusting my take-offs from a stop to try and keep the leaf circle spinning close to home.
Once I max out I'm going back to normal driving (which is still efficient) ... the extra 4 or 5 km's isn't worth the constant attention to the leaf circle lol.
I'm tempted to see how much more I can get but I am adjusting my take-offs from a stop to try and keep the leaf circle spinning close to home.
Once I max out I'm going back to normal driving (which is still efficient) ... the extra 4 or 5 km's isn't worth the constant attention to the leaf circle lol.
That's true for everything fun, isn't it? Beyond a certain point it becomes work.
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I didn't get a full charge last night, dash said I had 50km range to go when I started up this morning. I drove 68km to work and went to gas just as I turned in to the parking lot. I was impressed. I usually leave work with a full charge displaying 63km range then run between 11 and 14km on hold on the 401 then usually go to gas just a few km to home. I don't know if it's the uphill of the DVP and Don Mills or more AC in the afternoon or what.
There's another variables to keep in mind, including temperature this time of year – for example a morning like this morning where it's cool will show a decreased range initially, however as the day warms up the range will steadily increase. 50K on the guess o meter in the AM might be 60KM on it again in the afternoon sun, with the car unplugged and sitting fully charged.
This was one of the more interesting things that I noticed about the Bolt – it actually had a display screen option that showed (in real time) all the different battery variables, including not only HVAC use like the gen1 Volts, but temperature, terrain, speed, etc. It was much more granular (and therefore usable) data.
This was one of the more interesting things that I noticed about the Bolt – it actually had a display screen option that showed (in real time) all the different battery variables, including not only HVAC use like the gen1 Volts, but temperature, terrain, speed, etc. It was much more granular (and therefore usable) data.
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So, came across this article today - Car and Drivers 2 year wrap of up a Tesla model S.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-tesla-model-s-p85d-ev-long-term-test-wrap-up
It's an interesting read for those who can put aside 10 or 15 minutes to get through the whole article.
My initial thought was that, wow....it's had a LOT of issues right out of the gate for what was a brand new car, and is still only a 2 year old car with ~50,000KM on it. If any of the major automakers put out a car with that many initial and ongoing issues I don't think they'd have received the same tolerance that Tesla owners are apparently willing to give. By comparison, the Volt is a crown jewel for reliability and lack of problems compared to the Tesla.
Secondly, exactly as I mentioned earlier in this thread, people that can afford Teslas right now are willing to deal with these sorts of things because of the cachet, and heck, they're probably not one-car households either, so when the their Tesla is a state away getting service (and some of those services are EXPENSIVE, read the article) they're not gonna be that upset. But enter the model 3, where the "average man" will be the target audience...well, they ain't gonna handle that same **** without running out of patience really quickly.
I'm hoping Tesla gets the model3 launch right, but I don't know...I think they're running headlong into a real nightmare, personally.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-tesla-model-s-p85d-ev-long-term-test-wrap-up
It's an interesting read for those who can put aside 10 or 15 minutes to get through the whole article.
My initial thought was that, wow....it's had a LOT of issues right out of the gate for what was a brand new car, and is still only a 2 year old car with ~50,000KM on it. If any of the major automakers put out a car with that many initial and ongoing issues I don't think they'd have received the same tolerance that Tesla owners are apparently willing to give. By comparison, the Volt is a crown jewel for reliability and lack of problems compared to the Tesla.
Secondly, exactly as I mentioned earlier in this thread, people that can afford Teslas right now are willing to deal with these sorts of things because of the cachet, and heck, they're probably not one-car households either, so when the their Tesla is a state away getting service (and some of those services are EXPENSIVE, read the article) they're not gonna be that upset. But enter the model 3, where the "average man" will be the target audience...well, they ain't gonna handle that same **** without running out of patience really quickly.
I'm hoping Tesla gets the model3 launch right, but I don't know...I think they're running headlong into a real nightmare, personally.
A lot of the issues were covered under warranty. Also, the costs are in line with that calibre vehicle. No difference between taking in an S class or 7 series for work.
Lots of cool tech coming down to us regular folk though...
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And do you think 90% of the tesla owners are paying for these $100g+ machines in cash?
of course not. when the lease is up, they hand em back. they don't care about out of warranty and dealers will fix any problems.
Sing all the praises you want about the Volt, but few people are buying them.
of course not. when the lease is up, they hand em back. they don't care about out of warranty and dealers will fix any problems.
Sing all the praises you want about the Volt, but few people are buying them.
A modern luxury car with several water leaks, squeaky trim pieces, bending drivers seat, laggy interface...? Of course not. Even old domestic cars weren't that bad at their worst.
EV owners will be more forgiving than ICE owners. They've always loved their cars, since the GM EV1. Then again, those cars were reliable.
I'm on the same page as PP on my outlook for Tesla. I wish them well but unless their quality improves drastically, they will go down in history as the failed tech startup that played at being a car manufacturer, and who made EVs cool in the process.
My prediction is when the Tesla Model 3 hits mass market, whether its a success or not, owning an electric car will be "cool" and interest and awareness will rise suddenly.
GM had years with the Volt to do this, but failed to ignite the market.
Now with Hyundai, Honda, and other cool makers coming with their own versions now and in the near future, GM will be left in the dust as usual as competitors get "serious" about the electric car business.
In the public's eye, Tesla is a cool company. Not Hyundai or Honda! And GM is shedding its junk image with every new model year.
Yep, warranty or not, that's a heck of a lot of problems for a $140,000 (USD) car. Again, to compare them to an S or 7 series is all fine from an initial cost and maintenance cost standpoints, but from a quality standpoint? Not so sure about that.
The seat thing is just one thing that seems horribly inexcusable to me. When was the last time you heard of a car coming with a defective SEAT? And then the replacement was defective. And then a third replacement was defective as well before it even went in the car! It's on it's fourth (!) seat now.
Squeaks, mystery clunks and groans, leaks.
Wow. That does NOT scream quality to me. Sorry, but if BMW, Mercedes, Ferrari or any other premium priced manufacturer was sending cars with these sorts of problems into drivers hands, well, I don't think it would go unnoticed, much less accepted in some fashion.
If the model 3 comes off the line with even 1/4 of these sorts of quality, defect, and maintenance issues, well, it is NOT going to go well for Tesla. Their cachet will go in the toilet in a rapid fashion.
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