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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

HOT permit came in the mail yesterday for Jan - March. Guess my GTI can identify as a hybrid now?
 
With all of the sensors being constantly recorded in Teslas, if the driver truly did abuse the vehicle and damage it, tesla should be easily able to bring up the date, time and gps coordinates of each blow (even moreso on a vehicle with 115 miles and they probably have video of the entire life of the vehicle). The fact that they don't shows they are being aholes.
 
@Brian P ... thinking of trading my 2017 Volt on a used Bolt EUV (2022). The Bolt is the slowest charging EV out there.

What kind of KM/hour are you getting when charging on the road?

Does it even accept anything higher than an L2?

Thanks
 
@Brian P ... thinking of trading my 2017 Volt on a used Bolt EUV (2022). The Bolt is the slowest charging EV out there.

What kind of KM/hour are you getting when charging on the road?

Does it even accept anything higher than an L2?

Thanks
It's slow for a BEV. It can DC fast charge up to 55KW (many times faster than level 2). Something like 100 miles in 30 minutes if the conditions are right. It is also smaller and lighter than many other BEV's. Charging a Hummer at 55kw would be brutal, the Bolt not so much imo.
 
@Brian P ... thinking of trading my 2017 Volt on a used Bolt EUV (2022). The Bolt is the slowest charging EV out there.

What kind of KM/hour are you getting when charging on the road?

Does it even accept anything higher than an L2?

Thanks

DC fast-charging was optional on the early ones, then made standard later on. All of the facelift models 2022-2023 have it.

In 44,000 km, I've still only ever done two trips that needed DC fast-charging. As with all lithium batteries, they charge fastest when empty and slow down as they fill up. 50-ish kW when the battery is below half and is at reasonable temperature is pretty normal. At an OnRoute, half an hour ish while having a meal will get it from 20ish% to 65ish%. Beyond that, it really slows down, so it's better to do multiple shorter charging stops with the state-of-charge as low as you dare when you plug it in. I did Toronto to Ottawa and back, 950 km, in 16 hours which included three hours of the car sitting outside doing nothing at the job site, and that was last January. It's definitely not the best cross-country road-trip car ... but it will "do" it. For daily running around, charging up at home overnight, it has been great.

The facebook group is filled with posts from first-time EV owners who don't get it (and don't search).
"In summer when I bought the car, it was charging up to 240 miles, and now it's only charging up to 200. What's wrong with it?" (Nothing. It's winter. You're using the heater. You've installed winter tires. You're pushing through denser air. The battery isn't as effective when it's cold. And you're thinking in "miles" and the battery charges in "kilowatt-hours" ... how you make use of those kWh, varies depending on conditions.)
"At Electify America it was only charging at 20 kW. What's wrong?" (Q: what was your state of charge, and what was the temperature outside? "Uhhh I dunno." Probably nothing's wrong. The battery is probably either too full, or too cold, to accept more.)
 
don't do it.

When Sunny buys one, then you pull the trigger.

Maybe I'll buy a Blazer, hmmm, maybe not.... looking to be a half baked product.

You would think they learned from the BOLT fiasco.

Still anxiously waiting to see multitudes of Ultiums in real world conditions..... time will tell if GM got it right.




All of our Blazer EV's faults​

  • Short Range Radar Rear Sensor – Middle
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Left)
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Right)
  • Drive Motor Control Module
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Drive Motor Control Module 2 (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Radio (Head-up Display, General Electrical Malfunction)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Right
  • Radio (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Body Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Driver Seat Adjuster Memory Module
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Left
  • Radio
  • Body Control Module
  • Brake System Control Module (Lost Communication with Radio on CAN Bus 5)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Air Conditioning – Refrigerant Charge Low)
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Hybrid/Electric Powertrain Control Module 2 Requested Malfunction Indicator Lamp Illumination
  • Radio (Ethernet Bus 2)
  • Body Control Module (Inside Air Temperature Sensor Signal)
  • Body Control Module (Windshield Rain Sensor)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Lighting Control Module)
 
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Maybe I'll buy a Blazer, hmmm, maybe not.... looking to be a half baked product.

You would think they learned from the BOLT fiasco.

Still anxiously waiting to see multitudes of Ultiums in real world conditions..... time will tell if GM got it right.




All of our Blazer EV's faults​

  • Short Range Radar Rear Sensor – Middle
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Left)
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Right)
  • Drive Motor Control Module
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Drive Motor Control Module 2 (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Radio (Head-up Display, General Electrical Malfunction)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Right
  • Radio (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Body Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Driver Seat Adjuster Memory Module
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Left
  • Radio
  • Body Control Module
  • Brake System Control Module (Lost Communication with Radio on CAN Bus 5)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Air Conditioning – Refrigerant Charge Low)
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Hybrid/Electric Powertrain Control Module 2 Requested Malfunction Indicator Lamp Illumination
  • Radio (Ethernet Bus 2)
  • Body Control Module (Inside Air Temperature Sensor Signal)
  • Body Control Module (Windshield Rain Sensor)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Lighting Control Module)
Isn’t the Blazer the base for the latest Honda EV launch for 2024?


 
It's the same Ultium/BEV3 underneath, but I don't know how much of the on-board electronics Honda is using, other than that it is not zero, and it is not all of it. Not a good first impression, for sure.
 
All of those faults look like network-communication faults, i.e. canbus. The common element is the canbus gateway module or the network cable. It would be silly, but unsurprising, if all this was due to an unplugged network cable or power-supply cable, or an open-circuit in a harness connector because a wire didn't get inserted into the connector properly.

This sort of thing can happen on any modern vehicle. For that matter, it can happen in industrial automation, too. Been there, done that.
 
Maybe I'll buy a Blazer, hmmm, maybe not.... looking to be a half baked product.

You would think they learned from the BOLT fiasco.

Still anxiously waiting to see multitudes of Ultiums in real world conditions..... time will tell if GM got it right.




All of our Blazer EV's faults​

  • Short Range Radar Rear Sensor – Middle
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Left)
  • Body Control Module (Lost Communication with Rear Side Door Window Switch – Right)
  • Drive Motor Control Module
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Drive Motor Control Module 2 (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Radio (Head-up Display, General Electrical Malfunction)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Serial Data Gateway Module on CAN Bus 2)
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Right
  • Radio (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Body Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Driver Seat Adjuster Memory Module
  • Side Obstacle Detection Control Module – Left
  • Radio
  • Body Control Module
  • Brake System Control Module (Lost Communication with Radio on CAN Bus 5)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Invalid Data Received from Serial Data Gateway Module)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Air Conditioning – Refrigerant Charge Low)
  • Drive Motor Control Module (Hybrid/Electric Powertrain Control Module 2 Requested Malfunction Indicator Lamp Illumination
  • Radio (Ethernet Bus 2)
  • Body Control Module (Inside Air Temperature Sensor Signal)
  • Body Control Module (Windshield Rain Sensor)
  • Battery Energy Control Module (Lost Communication with Lighting Control Module)
@Scuba Steve dont you have one of these on order? Any ETA yet?
 
All of those faults look like network-communication faults, i.e. canbus. The common element is the canbus gateway module or the network cable. It would be silly, but unsurprising, if all this was due to an unplugged network cable or power-supply cable, or an open-circuit in a harness connector because a wire didn't get inserted into the connector properly.

If you check the blazer ev forums. A lot of ppl are having similar problems.

The sample listed above, GM sent an ev engineer and an ev specialist and they spent 2 weeks trying to figure things out, and I believe with little to no success

Looks to be a bigger problem, I doubt it's a one off thing.


Lastly and sadly, it's no secret honda and acura adopted this platform. With further GM collaboration on a 2027 model of some sort

All I can say, is I will be waiting for their proprietary in house ""e-Architecture" platform to make its way on to showroom floors before I take a leap.

 
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Yeah the Ultium cars are not starting off well for GM and some of the issues seem to be from the new Google Ultifi system that replaces Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.

These issues are making me look at a 2023 Bolt EUV as it's tried and true and includes Android Auto ... I'm not sure I wanna wait for the new Bolt on the same platform with no Android Auto. And chances are it'll be more expensive too.
 
Yeah the Ultium cars are not starting off well for GM and some of the issues seem to be from the new Google Ultifi system that replaces Android Auto and Apple CarPlay.

These issues are making me look at a 2023 Bolt EUV as it's tried and true and includes Android Auto ... I'm not sure I wanna wait for the new Bolt on the same platform with no Android Auto. And chances are it'll be more expensive too.

The Honda Ultiums will have AA and Carplay.

I can't wait to see these cars in deeper depth to see how "different" they are to the GM counterparts. I wouldn't be surprised if Honda has the electronics sorted out. They seem to be more attentive to details in their designs.

 

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