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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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2035 eh….good luck w that…
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Canada will require all new cars to be zero emissions vehicles by 2035 — Toronto Star
All new cars in Canada will have to be zero emissions by 2035, the government will announce next week when it unveils new vehicle regulations, the Star has learned.
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It aligns with what much of the rest of the world is doing, and the big players in the auto industry are planning for it. This is only going to be for light-duty vehicles, not trucks ... the big loophole in North America is going to be >8500lb GVWR pickup trucks. Prepare for pickup trucks to get even bigger and heavier ...
So not for light duty trucks? Maverick / Ranger variants?
I’m all for it, just don’t believe that the infrastructure will be ready. Not for long distance uses anyway.
As for big trucks, they should clamp down and force a separate license for these things. Driving my GTI I feel like I’m one of the smallest cars on the road and will be taken out easily. Which is weird because I didn’t get that feeling in the Volt.
Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features| Ford Maverick Competitor - Ev-riders
Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features- price- $22K 278 hp and 265 pound, Autonomy (Range )- 500 miles
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Cool if true. Entire article reaks of being written by AI. So many stupid phrases. Lots of youtube videos talking about how Toyota has confirmed the Stout but damned if I can find a legitimate Toyota release. I think the whole thing is clickbait for now. Toyota may or may not be doing something (but it sure as hell won't be $22K) but all the rumours are just pure speculation being sold as trustworthy.Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features| Ford Maverick Competitor - Ev-riders
Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features- price- $22K 278 hp and 265 pound, Autonomy (Range )- 500 miles
Now that truck would meet my needs. Wonder what real world pricing will be.Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features| Ford Maverick Competitor - Ev-riders
Toyota Reveals 22k New Toyota Stout 2024- Full Specification and Features- price- $22K 278 hp and 265 pound, Autonomy (Range )- 500 miles
As we’ve seen dealers like to muck around with nice adders to price. I’d expect the Canadian version to be close to 40-50k.
The details haven't been shaken out yet. And this is 12 years away, things could change, either for the better or worse, depending on your perspective. If this is going to apply to anything below 8500 lb GVWR, it's not just Maverick/Ranger but also F150.
One thing that could make life easier, is the just-published SAE NACS charging standard addresses something that I wasn't expecting. This is the charging-plug standard that began as something Tesla developed, but the thing that I wasn't expecting is that in this standard, SAE has also defined a standard charging-station socket to which you can plug in your own cable leading to your vehicle. This is for AC charging ("level 1" or "level 2") - not DC fast-charging.
Some background is in order. Europe (and China) use different charging plugs compared to anything used in North America. Let's focus on EU for now. All new EVs there, Tesla included, have to use the CCS2 (Mennekes) connector. But, it has been standard practice in Europe, for the cable between the charging station and your car, to be something that you provide (you carry it in the vehicle with you and plug it in to both the vehicle and the charging station). The charging station does not have a built-in cable attached the way it is typically done here. The charging station just has the socket that you plug into, and it is the CCS2 connector and pin-outs. The other thing they have done, is in addition to allowing for 208 or 240 volts single phase, they also allow for 277 volts single phase. That is important because 277 volts is the phase-to-phase voltage of a US-standard 480 volt 3-phase circuit. No transformer needed if the incoming supply to the building is 480 volts 3-phase.
Now ... why this is important. It means charging stations no longer have to address cable management, and cable maintenance, and have those loose cables hanging down tempting thieves and being vulnerable to damage. You, as the vehicle owner, supply it and use it to plug in your own vehicle. (It locks to the charging station when in use to discourage theft.)
Why is all *that* important ... because now, for example, lamp posts in areas with street parking could include a charging socket built into their base, without having to also include a bulky cable management system and have cables hanging around and getting stolen or damaged. Apartment buildings could have charging sockets distributed around, without having to also have cables hanging around loose and getting damaged. Facilities managers don't have to worry about cable maintenance because the cables are not theirs.
It turns out that this charging socket that SAE has included in that standard, is the same one that is already used in the EU, and in China, and everywhere else that uses those standards (for example CCS2 in EU and elsewhere).
This is all for AC charging - not DC fast-charging. But, we need AC charging everywhere that vehicles are parked for long periods, which is what this is meant for.
Thanks for that. That’s actually pretty smart to not bother with expensive cable hanging around, and not sure thieves want to mess around with cutting an HV feed while it’s active. But I’m sure there’s ’safe’ ways to do it.
I’ve been wavering on selling the GTI because simply…I really like it. I missed out on a low mileage red one in London I felt I could swap to the auto. But maybe something else will come about.
Fun car. Not bad on gas.
Today's "how it's made" ... Electric vans. The first few minutes of this are about the GM CAMI plant in Ingersoll, ON. The rest of the video is about Mercedes-Benz.
Welcome to my pre-retirement life. I wasn't involved in CAMI directly, but was involved with several suppliers for this vehicle.
Tidbit that I gleaned from this. The M-B e-Sprinter has a 56 kWh battery. (Edit: Found out afterward that the North-American-spec models have double that!). In a vehicle that size ... It isn't going to have much range. M-B was probably constrained by having to fit the EV bits into a vehicle structure that wasn't designed for it. The GM van was designed strictly as an EV and has a much bigger battery.
Welcome to my pre-retirement life. I wasn't involved in CAMI directly, but was involved with several suppliers for this vehicle.
Tidbit that I gleaned from this. The M-B e-Sprinter has a 56 kWh battery. (Edit: Found out afterward that the North-American-spec models have double that!). In a vehicle that size ... It isn't going to have much range. M-B was probably constrained by having to fit the EV bits into a vehicle structure that wasn't designed for it. The GM van was designed strictly as an EV and has a much bigger battery.
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This would not surprise me in the least. Fuel economy standards/rules are part of the reason trucks/suvs are so popular/large now in comparison to the past.
Why Americans love big cars
Many Americans drive trucks instead of cars now, and it has to do with a 50-year-old policy decision on fuel efficiency.
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For all of the reasons you want it, I doubt we will ever have it over here. SUV's for all!!!
For all of the reasons you want it, I doubt we will ever have it over here. SUV's for all!!!
My Bolt is the closest concept that I could get, to an EV Golf GTI. (to be honest, it's close enough)
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Motor Mouth: An open letter to Pierre Poilievre on EVs
With great power comes great responsibility—to get the right mix of electrification for Canada’s new-car market
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Rabbit?
Well if we can meet up for me to try your Bolt you’re welcome to drive my GTI (manual).
I didn't feel like starting a new thread, but the 'shortage' of cars by certain manufacturers is 100% bullcrap. They just keep the cars on a different (non-customer facing) lot to appear that they're low on inventory.
But as always, KIA Canada just keeps being a $hit company. No wonder their dealers / sales staff are twats. Must be something that trickles down.
But as always, KIA Canada just keeps being a $hit company. No wonder their dealers / sales staff are twats. Must be something that trickles down.
well if this isnt the definition of lame, i don't know what is.
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