Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

[GreyGhost]

New offering into the market. Not a fan of styling, but could def be an option for some on par with the Mini EV.

2024 Fiat 500e priced starting at $39,995 in Canada | Car News | Auto123

The Fiat 500e returns to North America as the 2024 Fiat 500e (Red) edition gets set to arrive at dealers early in the new year, priced starting at $39,995.

www.auto123.com

0-100 @ 8.5 may be the slowest bev money can buy. I would be ok with that as a cheap commuter. At 40k, it won't get my money. That's $15k more than a corolla that is better in almost every way imaginable.

 

[LBV]

Love this colour:

 

[mimico_polak]

0-100 @ 8.5 may be the slowest bev money can buy. I would be ok with that as a cheap commuter. At 40k, it won't get my money. That's15k more than a corolla that is better in almost every way imaginable.

100% it's too expensive (for me). But it is a compelling EV option in the small space of Mini EV, which is also getting a bump in the range IIRC for the updated model.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Love this colour:
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I believe it's called Aquamarine. Ford use to do the 69 T-Bird in it.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Hot Wheels with the 68 T-Bird as well.

 

[SunnY S]

love him or hate him, the guy is genius.

the more vids I see of the Cyber thing, the more I am impressed. (ditched the 12v battery finally!)

If there is only one cybertruck video you watch, make it this one between 2 geek engineers.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

14 MOTORS?????

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Evoex]

14 MOTORS?????

MSN

www.msn.com

Sheesh. Well 1 battery pack every 400k miles or so for an early model S sounds alright, especially if we just ignore the cost.

But yeah; 14 motors lol.

 

[GreyGhost]

14 MOTORS?????

MSN

www.msn.com

Seems strange. Obviously lots of miles but electric motors are pretty damned durable usually. The article references Tesla having trouble figuring out the root cause but then leaves it open whether it was ever solved. If the current motor has been in there for a long time, it's another clickbait article with little substance (other than EV's are durable as expected). Not enough useful content in the article to make that determination. Article also refers to it as a Model 3 at one point. Embarrassing editing as usual.

 

[Brian P]

 

[SunnY S]

GM ain’t sweating.

I see Trasport Canada is on board too, may be a drop or two forming.....

After complaints, Transport Canada launching in-depth review of Chevrolet Volt hybrid

An American regulator has also received 61 complaints related to the car’s battery energy control module, Consumer Matters' Anne Drewa reports.

ground.news

 

[mimico_polak]

Wow that looks fun! I love how 'it's a Monday afternoon and people are coming off work'. Why can't we have fun things like this?

I'm impressed with that Polestar. Another contender, but yet again...money is a thing.

EDIT: Actually pricing isn't that bad for used, but still about 10k more than where a straight swap would be possible. Too bad.

 

[killvino]

highly impressed with the updated Polestar 2.
Mischa is another youtuber who tells it like it is, his impression in this video is all you need to hear.
a stock polestar 2 with summer sport tires keeping up with modern day supercars.

no Tesla has done the ring on his channel without going into limp/reduced power mode.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

Rental Company Sixt Will Begin Dumping Tesla Fleet Due To Repair Costs

The German rental car giant has had enough of the tanking residual values and costly fender benders

jalopnik.com

 

[SunnY S]

14 MOTORS?????

you should put an asterisk in there... "As InsideEVs points out, that’s a common problem with early versions of the Tesla Model S, and it took Tesla a while to figure out what the problem was, so the motors kept failing."

wouldn't mind seeing other EV makers million mile examples and how they fared.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

you should put an asterisk in there...

No.

 

[SunnY S]

Not only are rivals using their proprietary charging,

Someone has to show them how to step it up....

Tesla shares 48V architecture with other automakers to move the industry

One of the less obvious features of the Tesla Cybertruck is its vehicle voltage architecture. The Cybertruck is the first...

electrek.co

 

[GreyGhost]

Not only are rivals using their proprietary charging,

Someone has to show them how to step it up....

Tesla shares 48V architecture with other automakers to move the industry

One of the less obvious features of the Tesla Cybertruck is its vehicle voltage architecture. The Cybertruck is the first...

electrek.co

Interesting. Not sure we will see a mainstream vehicle ditch 12V in our lifetime. Higher voltage makes sense for built in high-draw like a/c, power steering, etc but for consumer facing, it will be a huge drag. Every brake controller, USB power, car amplifier, replacement radio, aftermarket light, powered cooler, jump pack, etc would need to be redesigned. I expect 48V to become more prevalent but 12V isn't going away any time soon no matter what musk prophesizes.

 

[Brian P]

I read about Tesla's 48V system. They're advocating distributed controllers with local wiring to switches, sensors, and actuators, and power and network to the distributed controllers. BFD. Everyone is already moving in that direction - most cars have dozens of control modules on the network. The local high-speed network for the steer-by-wire is how Toyota/Lexus is doing it, too. Ethernet instead of Canbus is prompted by the need to transmit more data due to all the cameras and other sensors involved with driver-assistance systems. That transition has already been in the works for quite a while. A lot of vehicles already have multiple on-board networks.

One of the nuisances is that (low-speed-network) OBDII (which started production in 1996 before anyone ever thought of needing networked video on a vehicle!) is a "thou shalt" on any vehicle that has an internal combustion engine, which means you're stuck with that low-speed CANbus even if other stuff in the vehicle needs a high-speed network

None of this is "new", everyone already knows how to do this, the cybertruck is the first one to change over wholescale. Not building any vehicles that have internal combustion engines, and not needing to maintain network compatibility, makes that easier for them.

This is all well and good if you start from scratch and accept that nothing that is powered by electricity in your new vehicle is compatible with anything your existing suppliers and aftermarket parts manufacturers build. Power seat motors. Power window motors. Wiper motors. Windscreen washer fluid pump. Lighting. Audio equipment. The interface to the trailer that you want to tow, every single one of which has 12-volt lighting circuits.

I suspect they're going to have a few DC-to-DC step-down power supplies to power accessories that aren't compatible with 48 volts ...

There was talk some time ago of switching to 48 volts due to the power demand for electric power steering, but everyone figured out how to design low-voltage servo drives efficiently enough that the issue went away.

 

[Hardwrkr13]

Love this colour:
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Wish I could find a truck in that colour. Reminds me of my first truck 30yrs ago in "Midnight Blue".

Wow that looks fun! I love how 'it's a Monday afternoon and people are coming off work'. Why can't we have fun things like this?

I'm impressed with that Polestar. Another contender, but yet again...money is a thing.

EDIT: Actually pricing isn't that bad for used, but still about 10k more than where a straight swap would be possible. Too bad.

Someone's gotta have one with the plate Pole Star on it.