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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

mimico_polak said:
Did you install it yourself? Or just get UHAUL to do it?
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I was going to do it but then one of the installers made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. So I didn’t end up doing it. Wasn’t too upset about it, although honestly, it was a simple installation - remove rear bumper cover, unbolt crash bar (3 nuts either side), put hitch on and pinch back in place with the crash bar, reinstall bolts, replace bumper cover.

Brian P said:
First independent test of a Rivian that I know of. (Expensive, and heavy ... but impressive.)


They noted high electricity consumption ... but considering that this is faster than a Ford Raptor or Ram TRX (and is well into sports-car performance territory) ... those aren't exactly thrifty on petrol. I doubt if the Ford Lightning is going to be thrifty with its electrical consumption, either. The aerodynamics aren't there.
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I’m sure the Cybertruck will be far superior to *any* other EV truck in every conceivable way. Because reasons.

/s
 
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Brian P said:
First independent test of a Rivian that I know of. (Expensive, and heavy ... but impressive.)


They noted high electricity consumption ... but considering that this is faster than a Ford Raptor or Ram TRX (and is well into sports-car performance territory) ... those aren't exactly thrifty on petrol. I doubt if the Ford Lightning is going to be thrifty with its electrical consumption, either. The aerodynamics aren't there.
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$12 billion raised from share sale before flotation. All these recent flotations seem massively overhyped/overvalued a-la dot.com bubble of yesteryear.

Electric truck maker Rivian raises almost $12bn from share sale Electric truck maker Rivian raises almost $12bn from share sale
 
PrivatePilot said:
I was going to do it but then one of the installers made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. So I didn’t end up doing it. Wasn’t too upset about it, although honestly, it was a simple installation - remove rear bumper cover, unbolt crash bar (3 nuts either side), put hitch on and pinch back in place with the crash bar, reinstall bolts, replace bumper cover.



I’m sure the Cybertruck will be far superior that *any* other EV truck in every conceivable way. Because reasons.

/s
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My only concern is removing the bumper...I'm not great at trim work. But I guess it's nothing more than a few clips to be removed.

Pretty sure I've got the vehicle ramps here somewhere I can pull up onto. My only issue would be the installation of the wiring harness.
 
mimico_polak said:
My only concern is removing the bumper...I'm not great at trim work. But I guess it's nothing more than a few clips to be removed.

Pretty sure I've got the vehicle ramps here somewhere I can pull up onto. My only issue would be the installation of the wiring harness.
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I have to drop the bumper to put hitch on my car. Hitch is in the box waiting for me to bother. Previous vehicles were all 45 minutes or less to put hitch in. I normally use my switch box and dont put in harnesses. Trailer towing is infrequent for me and its not worth the added cost. Depending on the vehicle, harness install can be trivial (plug into vehicle harness), use cancer clips (not so bad if done inside vehicle envelope), one vehicle I soldered wires onto the back of the tail lights as they had exposed leads.
 
mimico_polak said:
My only concern is removing the bumper...I'm not great at trim work. But I guess it's nothing more than a few clips to be removed.

Pretty sure I've got the vehicle ramps here somewhere I can pull up onto. My only issue would be the installation of the wiring harness.
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I’ve removed a few bumpers. Do it on a warm day in the sun so the clips aren’t fragile (not many of those left so get ‘er done) and it’s really pretty easy.

There’s plug and play electrical harnesses for the Volt for $75 on Amazon.

I’m doing my own wiring since I want to put a 7-pin on as well as wire it for a charge circuit etc. I will probably even wire up the brakes this time around although at <2000# gross for the camper the car stops very easily without them. But in some terrain (Gaspe for example, some wild grades) they’re an extra safety measure.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I’ve removed a few bumpers. Do it on a warm day in the sun so the clips aren’t fragile (not many of those left so get ‘er done) and it’s really pretty easy.

There’s plug and play electrical harnesses for the Volt for $75 on Amazon.

I’m doing my own wiring since I want to put a 7-pin on as well as wire it for a charge circuit etc. I will probably even wire up the brakes this time around although at <2000# gross for the camper the car stops very easily without them. But in some terrain (Gaspe for example, some wild grades) they’re an extra safety measure.
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Hell, even with a strong cross wind, being able to feed in some trailer brakes makes for a happier feeling (obviously not riding them, just stopping an unwanted oscillation).
 
GreyGhost said:
Hell, even with a strong cross wind, being able to feed in some trailer brakes makes for a happier feeling (obviously not riding them, just stopping an unwanted oscillation).
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Honestly I was blown away how my Gen1 volt towed the trailer. If it wasn’t for the limitations of the drivetrain that I kept bumping up against (and became clear quickly was going to be a limiting factor for long distance travel as well as difficult terrain) it was otherwise awesome. Literally 1 finger driving even in wind.

Low c-of-g on an EV plus a decent wheelbase = great tow platform.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Honestly I was blown away how my Gen1 volt towed the trailer. If it wasn’t for the limitations of the drivetrain that I kept bumping up against (and became clear quickly was going to be a limiting factor for long distance travel as well as difficult terrain) it was otherwise awesome. Literally 1 finger driving even in wind.

Low c-of-g on an EV plus a decent wheelbase = great tow platform.
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Also fat. The car weight compared to trailer weight is very favorable.
 
mimico_polak said:
My only concern is removing the bumper...I'm not great at trim work. But I guess it's nothing more than a few clips to be removed.

Pretty sure I've got the vehicle ramps here somewhere I can pull up onto. My only issue would be the installation of the wiring harness.
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I have a set of rhino ramps never used that I should probably sell if you or anyone else needs
 
GreyGhost said:
I have to drop the bumper to put hitch on my car. Hitch is in the box waiting for me to bother. Previous vehicles were all 45 minutes or less to put hitch in. I normally use my switch box and dont put in harnesses. Trailer towing is infrequent for me and its not worth the added cost. Depending on the vehicle, harness install can be trivial (plug into vehicle harness), use cancer clips (not so bad if done inside vehicle envelope), one vehicle I soldered wires onto the back of the tail lights as they had exposed leads.
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What is that?
 
mimico_polak said:
What is that?
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I built a trailer light controller. Plugs into the lighter and has a cable back to a flat 4. I can control running lights, turn signals and brakes. Avoids having to install harnesses in anything. If, theoretically a particular vehicle was rated to tow thousands of pounds in europe and none in Canada, it also means that the hitch was there for a bike rack not to tow trailers. I may build a newer version at some point with a circuit breaker instead of a fuse, digital flasher and amp meter to see what the trailer is up to. Old one should never fail though so I don't know if I will get around to version 2.
 
jc100 said:
$12 billion raised from share sale before flotation. All these recent flotations seem massively overhyped/overvalued a-la dot.com bubble of yesteryear.

Electric truck maker Rivian raises almost $12bn from share sale Electric truck maker Rivian raises almost $12bn from share sale
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Yep, a company that has manufactured a total of a few hundred trucks and hasn't made a dime in profit is now valued at basically the same as Ford or GM.

Tell me how that makes one tiny shred of sense.

Bubble indeed.
 
It is a good thing for Rivian that they've gotten production started now, because if the F150 Lightning had beaten them to production, IMO they'd be toast. Rivian is in production ramp-up mode. It's normal for this to start slow, especially on a brand-new line building a brand-new vehicle. I know who built the body-shop weld equipment. They're capable of building a lot more, but it will take months to approach that.

Rivian's bread and butter for now is the Amazon delivery van, but even that is going to be a slow ramp-up. Appears that they want to build 300 of them before the end of 2021, and about 10,000 in 2022.

And Rivian just got that going in the nick of time, too, because GM has the new BrightDrop EV vans coming. Those are also going to have a slow production ramp-up through 2022, but then, GM is retooling CAMI (Ingersoll) to build them, and at that point, look out.

And yes, I agree that the stock valuation makes no sense. Tesla's doesn't make sense, either. (I don't own either, nor am I short either. Not now, and never have.)
 
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