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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

mimico_polak said:
Interesting @GreyGhost…whenever we go to Europe their large transport trucks look nothing like the ones here.
Basically have a completely flat front end, not the big hood as what we’re used to when we think of big rigs.
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Cabovers. I spent the first 5 years of my driving career behind the wheel of one of those. They're pretty much not seen in North America anymore except for the survivors still left on the roads....mostly classics now really. I don't think any manufacturer is making them anymore.

They had advantages and disadvantages. The reason our North American "big long nose" tractors aren't a thing in Europe is because their dimensions need to be tighter for their crappy tight road network compared to ours. Our trucks just wouldn't work there.

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those of us in the market in 1999/2000 have seen many companies like this....
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Yep, Tesla is in a giant bubble. When it bursts there's gonna be a lot of fanboys grasping at straws.

Anyhow, on a different note. We picked up this little critter a week ago Friday.

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Gen2 Premiere loaded to the hilt. There was not a box on the build sheet that went unchecked on this car - literally not a single available option that it doesn't have. Adaptive cruise, self park, lane keep assist, heated and power everything. Hell, even the green-ring lighted charging port.. Only 80K on it and it's spent all it's life in an underground parking lot and was treated with kid gloves by it's original owner (they *really* looked after it) so it looks literally like the day it rolled off the dealers lot inside and out.

Still has new car smell even.

My wife fell in love with it immediately as did I. So we brought it home.

As was the case with all my previous EV purchases (except for the Ioniq, it went well actually), this one ended up with some unnecessary drama and hoops to jump through which is a story in itself, but at just a little over $23K for a loaded Gen2 I'm super happy.
 
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mimico_polak said:
Good find congrats! I wish I held out for a Premier instead of the LT. Too late though. Seats are garbage.
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Dunno if the cloth ones are any different than the leather, but I find the seats in this one pretty great actually.

Then again I've only driven it a handful of trips so far, two 50km trips today and a trip to Billy Bishop airport and back. Seemed good so far.
 
Looks good - what year?
 
GreyGhost said:
So what was the important option that you didnt want to disclose? Where did you find this car?
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Adaptive cruise. After having this option on one of my work trucks I swore I’d never buy another vehicle without it. It’s amazing and takes a ton more hassle/stress/annoyance out of highway driving. Especially on 2 lane roads.

There was a grand total of 3 Premiere models in Ontario for sale with this option, and only 1 in Quebec. I went and looked at a black one in Richmond Hill (still available I see) that looked good in the photos but was pretty rough cosmetically when I got there - the owner must have lived at the end of a 20km gravel driveway based on the absolutely horribly pockmarked front bumper and stone chipped hood. And it only had 24K left on the Voltec warranty, having just under 140,000km on the odometer.

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Another was in Bracebridge and sold before I could get up to see it.

The one we finally bought was was private sale from the original owner in Scarborough. Paid $23,200 which I was pretty happy with considering all the options and only having 80,000km, so 4 years or 80,000km of Voltec/battery warranty left which should work perfect. Not that I’m particularly worried, but for only a few K more than the cosmetically beat up one in RHill with only basically a years warranty left, yeah, easy decision.

I got the Onstar hooked up and discovered when I accessed the stats for the first time that the one we bought has only went 17,000km on electric. ~14% share of total miles. Crazy.
 
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Oh, and surprise surprise, despite specifically asking when I made the arrangements to go see the one in Richmond Hill at the dealer, I arrived to find it flat dead.

Deslership salespeople really need to get with the bloody program. I swear, they’d show a used Bolt to someone without enough power to get out of the parking lot even.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Oh, and surprise surprise, despite specifically asking when I made the arrangements to go see the one in Richmond Hill at the dealer, I arrived to find it flat dead.

Deslership salespeople really need to get with the bloody program. I swear, they’d show a used Bolt to someone without enough power to get out of the parking lot even.
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They cant even keep ice cars with sufficient gas to test drive. Obviously it's faster to top up but I've gone on test drives where it started with the fuel light on. I dont understand how dealership policy doesnt keep all vehicles at at least 1/4 tank so they are always ready for potential buyers. On one test drive, salesperson added $5 and the way he was acting, it was probably his money. Bs.
 
GreyGhost said:
They cant even keep ice cars with sufficient gas to test drive. Obviously it's faster to top up but I've gone on test drives where it started with the fuel light on. I dont understand how dealership policy doesnt keep all vehicles at at least 1/4 tank so they are always ready for potential buyers. On one test drive, salesperson added $5 and the way he was acting, it was probably his money. Bs.
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I've been on test drives where we had to stop for gas with the salesperson because the car didn't have enough.

Good choice @PrivatePilot. My current 'guessometer' is around the 82km range. Winter tires on and I haven't seen much change in range from the previous 80-85km range.
 
I've got ACC (adaptive cr ctl) also on my 2017 and to be honest rarely use it on my way home on the 407. It's too abrupt at slowing down and then accelerating.

As an example, you'll be doing 115 on ACC and see a car change into you lane up ahead. WithOUT it on, I'd just take my foot off the pedal and slow down a bit - nice and smooth.

With ACC on, the car will keep going at 115 until it get's to the spot it thinks it should then slow down and does it a bit too quickly for my liking.

If I was following myself I'd think I wasn't paying attention to traffic ahead.

Reverse it for if you then pull left to pass the car ... gets on the gas a bit too quickly.

Give it a try and see how it work for you as rush hour on the 407 is still rush hour. I'm more likely to use it when traffic is light.

I've tried it during city traffic too (50-70 km/h limit) and it's even worse ... would just be a matter of time before someone rear ends me.

I honestly wouldn't pay for the feature in the future if I had a choice.
 
LBV said:
I've got ACC (adaptive cr ctl) also on my 2017 and to be honest rarely use it on my way home on the 407. It's too abrupt at slowing down and then accelerating.

As an example, you'll be doing 115 on ACC and see a car change into you lane up ahead. WithOUT it on, I'd just take my foot off the pedal and slow down a bit - nice and smooth.

With ACC on, the car will keep going at 115 until it get's to the spot it thinks it should then slow down and does it a bit too quickly for my liking.

If I was following myself I'd think I wasn't paying attention to traffic ahead.

Reverse it for if you then pull left to pass the car ... gets on the gas a bit too quickly.

Give it a try and see how it work for you as rush hour on the 407 is still rush hour. I'm more likely to use it when traffic is light.

I've tried it during city traffic too (50-70 km/h limit) and it's even worse ... would just be a matter of time before someone rear ends me.

I honestly wouldn't pay for the feature in the future if I had a choice.
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That sucks. That was my experience with Subaru. Actively dangerous. It is a sensor or logic issue though. No fundamental reason for active cruise to be so manic (nor follow so damn closely, subaru at max distance was inside my comfortable following distance so by the time you identify that the computer has screwed up you are probably going to crash).

The next problem with active cruise is that some manufacturers disable dumb cruise if the active cruise is ****** off. What the hell. There is no good reason for that. Indicate to the driver clearly that dumb cruise is active and let it work.
 
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Yeah I’ve found it a bit janky in traffic but the same happens on any vehicle with it I’ve found. There’s a limit to how it can be programmed.

That said once you get out of the city it’s a whole different story. We went out to Cobourg on Sunday and I tucked in behind a semi to draft and put it on cruise and it was a dream - no more manual intervention when the truck sped up or slowed down ever so slightly.

The same would be said for a road like highway 7 to Ottawa. That highway nearly drove me off my rocker more than a few times over the years with people who have no ability to maintain a single speed properly.

Edit: I found the following distance options on the volt good. If anything the closest setting is still a bit too far away for ideal drafting, but I know that wasn’t what it was designed for lol
 
LBV said:
Lol.. I ride with someone like that and yep frustrating when you're following.
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We road trip a lot (even more so now that we have a camper again) so for the long stretches of open road the adaptive cruise is a definite benefit.

I can see how someone who only spends time in the city traffic would find it crappy though. It does brake too hard too late and accelerate too hard on the flipside in city traffic - I found that out in short order. But it’s a different beast on the open highway, it works awesome and is smooth.

I had the hitch installed last night and we’re actually headed to Silent Lake camping on the last weekend of November so it’ll have its maiden towing road trip before long.
 
I was going to order the mucho-dinero Torklift again before discovering Uhaul manufactures and sells one almost the same as Torklift’s basic model for only $200.

I’d have liked to have the Torklift “Invisi” which hides the hitch bits behind the license plate, but that wasn’t worth the $400 (+) dollar difference.

They ordered it last Wednesday and it came in on Friday for pickup.
 
PrivatePilot said:
We road trip a lot (even more so now that we have a camper again) so for the long stretches of open road the adaptive cruise is a definite benefit.

I can see how someone who only spends time in the city traffic would find it crappy though. It does brake too hard too late and accelerate too hard on the flipside in city traffic - I found that out in short order. But it’s a different beast on the open highway, it works awesome and is smooth.

I had the hitch installed last night and we’re actually headed to Silent Lake camping on the last weekend of November so it’ll have its maiden towing road trip before long.
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The scariest smart cruise experience was on a divided highway west of banff. Two lanes headed east, I was in left lane, tractor trailer lumbering along in right lane. Left hand bend in the road and car was too stupid to understand lanes and went into full collision protocol and deployed max brakes (ABS on dry pavement). Car ignored gas pedal. Grrr. If someone had been behind me, that would have caused a pile up. Safety my ass. Beta testing on public roads at best. Auto controls should be limited to small changes (eg, minor acceleration/deceleration to match speed of vehicle you are following) and major changes (eg brakes) should be a flashing light and driver does it.
 
PrivatePilot said:
I was going to order the mucho-dinero Torklift again before discovering Uhaul manufactures and sells one almost the same as Torklift’s basic model for only $200.

I’d have liked to have the Torklift “Invisi” which hides the hitch bits behind the license plate, but that wasn’t worth the $400 (+) dollar difference.

They ordered it last Wednesday and it came in on Friday for pickup.
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Did you install it yourself? Or just get UHAUL to do it?
 
First independent test of a Rivian that I know of. (Expensive, and heavy ... but impressive.)


They noted high electricity consumption ... but considering that this is faster than a Ford Raptor or Ram TRX (and is well into sports-car performance territory) ... those aren't exactly thrifty on petrol. I doubt if the Ford Lightning is going to be thrifty with its electrical consumption, either. The aerodynamics aren't there.
 
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