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Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?

caboose56 said:
Anyone have a link to the new rebates? How do they apply to the used vehicles?
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In this link here: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/electric/electric-vehicle-rebate.shtml it says that a new program guide is coming out March 12th. Maybe there will be more info in that new guide?

As far as I can see, it still only applies to new vehicles with less than 1000km on them, because it still says that on the main page:
Used vehicles and demo vehicles with mileage higher than EHVIP standards are not eligible for an incentive;
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Used vehicles are still eligible for the green plate programs.
 
GreyGhost said:
Wow, those numbers are higher than I would have expected.
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16 gauge copper has a resistance of 0.00409 ohms per foot. Watts = resistance X current squared. At 12 Amps 144 x .00409 = 0.58896 per conductor X 2 conductors = 1.17792 Watts per foot. A 100 foot cord running at 12 amps would generate 117 watts about the same as an electric blanket.

There would be a drop of about 10 volts (8%) for a 16/2 and 6 volts (5%) for a 14/2.


Spread out is no problem but coiled up the 16 gauge cord would prematurely age and dry out.
 
caboose56 said:
Anyone have a link to the new rebates? How do they apply to the used vehicles?
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Used EV's are unfortunatlely still not eligible for anything, but at least new EV owners who purchased used are eligible for the EVSE rebate now.

The used EV market really doesn't need any help anyways, they rarely sit for very long on any dealers lot unless there's a problem with them, or the dealer is woefully poor at selling vehicles to begin with.
 
Going out with my sister and BIL tomorrow night to look at a Volt...seems like the time is nearing for them. The dealer has it priced way too high though, will really depend on if the price is negotiable or not.
 
nobbie48 said:
16 gauge copper has a resistance of 0.00409 ohms per foot. Watts = resistance X current squared. At 12 Amps 144 x .00409 = 0.58896 per conductor X 2 conductors = 1.17792 Watts per foot. A 100 foot cord running at 12 amps would generate 117 watts about the same as an electric blanket.

There would be a drop of about 10 volts (8%) for a 16/2 and 6 volts (5%) for a 14/2.


Spread out is no problem but coiled up the 16 gauge cord would prematurely age and dry out.
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I wasn't challenging them, I had just never worked them out and was surprised at their magnitude. In my head I was thinking an order of magnitude less heat (but also in my head I was also expecting a larger voltage drop which is obviously incompatible).
 
Got an outlet put into the garage and bought a JuiceBox Pro 40, which should arrive in a few days. I figure the government is paying for half of all this, so it's a good investment. Now that I've had the Volt for a week, it's starting to grow on me.
 
shanekingsley said:
Got an outlet put into the garage and bought a JuiceBox Pro 40, which should arrive in a few days. I figure the government is paying for half of all this, so it's a good investment. Now that I've had the Volt for a week, it's starting to grow on me.
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Cool. I'm guessing you're already discovering the limitations of Level 1 charging pretty quickly, huh?

How did the trip to/from the cottage work out fuel economy wise, and did you get charged OK while you were there?
 
We wanted to drive a bit quick and also move some stuff, so didn't want to get the new car all dirty:)
Took the Ford Focus which is pretty good on gas too, even when moving quick.

And yeah, the L1 charger doesn't even fully charge between 7pm-7am, so every day this week the range goes a little lower, unless I'm charging at mid-peak or on-peak rates. Tomorrow I start the new commute to Scarborough, so the sooner I can start using the L2 the better. The JuiceBox Pro 40 has some other web based tracking stuff, so I'm curious to see what's what, even though I'm not usually nerdy like that.

I'd be up for buying a full electric as our next car - something like the Bolt.
 
shanekingsley said:
I'd be up for buying a full electric as our next car - something like the Bolt.
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Not sure what your buying time-frame is, very soon we will have an on slaught of compelling choices of that will be better engineered than the Bolt.

Even the new redesigned Leaf for example.
 
GreyGhost said:
I wasn't challenging them, I had just never worked them out and was surprised at their magnitude. In my head I was thinking an order of magnitude less heat (but also in my head I was also expecting a larger voltage drop which is obviously incompatible).
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I do a lot of work with heating cables and like to kick over the grey cells once in a while. When I'm working with infrared scans extension cords stand out like sore thumbs.
 
SunnY S said:
Not sure what your buying time-frame is, very soon we will have an on slaught of compelling choices of that will be better engineered than the Bolt.

Even the new redesigned Leaf for example.
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Thanks - no rush at all. If it were today, I would go for the Bolt, but as each year passes, I know the offerings will be improving considerably. Having one hybrid like the Volt and one full electric would be the prefect scenario for a 2 car household.
 
Yep ... You will see this scenario in majority of GTA 2 car families. The most anticipation is right now out there for affordable SUV/CUV which can tow and has long distance capability. No BEV ( Tesla doesn't count due to cost), and only one PHEV (Outlander). Soon another PHEV (Niro) comes and sooner after that two BEVs (Kona and Niro; same platform and battery packs, just different motor specs and combos) .... Segment which grows the quickest right now, you can tell this is not much, especially when you consider that these will be made in 20K units worldwide, that's it. .... So, there will be a lot of waiting, for some people until 2021 .... Sounds like eternity already.
 
Question about charging: Are you people only charging up to 80% full?

I've read that staying roughly between 20%-80% is the best way to preserve battery life. Charging to 100% or letting it drain below 20% on a regular basis is supposed to be not good for the battery longevity. I ask because on a 100% charge I might be able to do my entire round trip commute or come very close, but on 80% charge, I'm definitely using gas on the way home. Thoughts?
 
Your Volt automatically takes care of this. What it says is 100% and what it says is 0% aren't really completely full or empty.
 
Thanks Brian:)

After posting I went to the Volt forum and found this:
The guard bands are built in to the Volt. The battery is speced at 18.4KWh but you only see 14.4, the other 4KWh is used for the guard bands so when the Volt says it's full or empty that only applies to the usable portion of the battery. Bottom line is that you don't have to worry about it.

GM is overly protective of the Volt's battery, the Volt can be FULLY charged and dis-charged without fear.
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Yep, the GM engineers thought this out. It’s the reason Gen1 Volts are still running around with hundreds of thousands of KM on them and still getting factory (or higher) range still, even on 6-7 year old cars.
 
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