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Any GPS Apps that can avoid roundabouts?

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MacDoc said:
Fun on a bike mostly.
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I've been known to go through a traffic circle at speed on the bike and go around 2 or 3 times before shooting out in the direction I need to go.

Can be fun if it's one of those traffic circles that require you to flip the bike hard one way then the other.

Given how boring our roads are in most places along the lakeshore...this actually passes for fun lol
 
I don't think any traffic app would be able to keep up with the ever appearing traffic circles around southern Ontario. These things pop-up like mushrooms after a spring rain!

I personally don't see any good reason to rip out a perfectly good signalized intersection and replace it with a traffic circle. Apparently Ontario is flush with money and is looking at ways to spend the roads budget, just so they can justify a higher budget next year. That money would be better spent repairing the truly horrendous roads around the Province.
 
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Personally, I love roundabouts. Originally from London. Loads of them there. Even have one area that has 6 into another roundabouts as you approach the one main roundabout.
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Wiltshire UK, we look down on the rest of the worlds feeble attempts of roundabouts :)
 

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Malks said:
I don't think any traffic app would be able to keep up with the ever appearing traffic circles around southern Ontario. These things pop-up like mushrooms after a spring rain!

I personally don't see any good reason to rip out a perfectly good signalized intersection and replace it with a traffic circle. Apparently Ontario is flush with money and is looking at ways to spend the roads budget, just so they can justify a higher budget next year. That money would be better spent repairing the truly horrendous roads around the Province.
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Circle flows much better than signalized, far fewer bad crashes, works in a power outage and no maintenance required for lights/electronics. I havent seen the numbers but I wouldnt be surprised if the cost of the circle was covered by the savings. The bigger issue is normally is the land available to install a circle as they take a lot more space.
 
I think they plan on putting one in on Steeles and 10th Line as the house that was on the corner was torn down.
 
GreyGhost said:
Circle flows much better than signalized, far fewer bad crashes, works in a power outage and no maintenance required for lights/electronics. I havent seen the numbers but I wouldnt be surprised if the cost of the circle was covered by the savings. The bigger issue is normally is the land available to install a circle as they take a lot more space.
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I understand that traffic flow is better (when used properly) and I'm glad you included "fewer bad crashes" because I feel they actually cause more crashes, just not as severe. I still hate the things because most Ontario drivers have no clue what to do when confronted with one. Every time I come to one the driver ahead of me comes to a full stop, even when a merge could be done safely.
 
We have a few of them out my way including a string of 3 in a row at a once messy 401 / service road combination. They work great. Everyone seems to have figured them out and flies through now - way better than the old gong show of stop signs and on ramps and off ramps all over the place.
 
PrivatePilot said:
We have a few of them out my way including a string of 3 in a row at a once messy 401 / service road combination. They work great. Everyone seems to have figured them out and flies through now - way better than the old gong show of stop signs and on ramps and off ramps all over the place.
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I find that the single lane ones work fantastic, 2 or more lanes is where things seem to get tricking for many drivers. Even when you know how to use them and follow the rules, it only takes one silly driver to make a mess.
 
Malks said:
I understand that traffic flow is better (when used properly) and I'm glad you included "fewer bad crashes" because I feel they actually cause more crashes, just not as severe.
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I would take 10 relatively-low-speed rear-enders or side-swipes before one left turn in front of full-speed approaching traffic, or one blow through a stop light in front of full-speed approaching traffic. It is almost impossible to have the worst-case-scenario collisions at a roundabout. A roundabout forces everyone to slow down while not forcing everyone to stop.

People have mostly figured them out.
 
People are getting better are dealing with them. Pedestrians are still in danger at some of them tho.
 
Wingboy said:
People are getting better are dealing with them. Pedestrians are still in danger at some of them tho.
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Pedestrians are always in danger. Couple a righteous attitude with headphones and a complete obliviousness to the world around them and they are destined to be squished.
 
Wingboy said:
I've had lots of close calls here in Waterloo region. They were designed by idiots.

Waterloo Region's most dangerous roads: Report shows worst intersections for crashes

Drivers always need to be careful, but they may want to be extra vigilant at some intersections in the region.
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The guy they were interviewing hit the nail on the head. They have to be designed right with the right geometry. Hamilton did theirs right. Breeze through them with good sight lines. The ones in Milton are abrupt and are impossible to drive through without over braking and understeer. The one featured in the video looks similar.
 
GreyGhost said:
Pedestrians are always in danger. Couple a righteous attitude with headphones and a complete obliviousness to the world around them and they are destined to be squished.
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Much of this is baked into the design of North American roads. It's not related to roundabouts really, but here's a pretty good layman's view of the situation:
 
I think the region bought into a two for one deal when they built the Ira Needles Boulevard. The sheer number of roundabouts on it is crazy. Check it out on Google maps.
 
Wingboy said:
I think the region bought into a two for one deal when they built the Ira Needles Boulevard. The sheer number of roundabouts on it is crazy. Check it out on Google maps.
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They spelled Ima Needless wrong.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
The guy they were interviewing hit the nail on the head. They have to be designed right with the right geometry. Hamilton did theirs right. Breeze through them with good sight lines. The ones in Milton are abrupt and are impossible to drive through without over braking and understeer. The one featured in the video looks similar.
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The one in King at Keele and Aurora Sideroad is interesting. They painted lines to make it a more awkward entry path but if you follow the curbs and ignore the lines, it is a much smoother transition. Maybe that was an attempt at traffic calming/getting you to slow down before entering. The number of people with "sport sedans" that go through at 30 km/h is really quite sad. I think the vast majority of the population won't miss driving at all when our robot overlords take over that task.

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They installed a traffic circle in Ottawa years (decades) ago and decided that is should be incoming traffic had the right-of-way rather than the standard, even though there were other circles with the correct approach. Caused all kinds of headaches because when busy, the circle got plugged rather than the approaching roads, so nobody could move. Didn't take them long until they converted it.
 
This is a interesting watch.
 
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