another car thread

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OpenGambit said:
thought headlights have been auto for ages - my Celica from 2001 had it.
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I'm not sure which cars have it and which ones don't. My friend's 2011 Civic does not. The only visual cue inside is that the radio and hvac controls are dark. Both dash panels are fully lit at all times.

With all the recent innovations to assist stupid drivers, one would think that any car with perma-back-lit gauges would also come with auto lights.



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SunnY S said:
The only dumb thing is the people that dont know how to operate a modern automobile.

As OG points out, modern cars have an AUTO feature for the lighting system.

Its brilliant system..... when it gets dark outside, the car senses it, and automatically turns on the headlights.

Imagine that?
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Your much-ballyhooed Civic does not have it ... and, worse, the instrument lights are on all the time.

This is one place where GM got it right ... I'm pretty sure every modern GM has automatic headlights. I know that a rental Chevrolet Cobalt had them a couple of years ago.

I was a bit concerned when my dad's 2011 VW Golf had instrument lighting on during the daytime ... but then I discovered how the Germans dealt with this: when the ambient lighting drops too low, it turns off the instrument lighting as a visual cue to the driver that they need to switch the headlights on :happy2: It works; VW Golfs are not on the list of common "no-headlights" offenders :cool:
 
SunnY S said:
The only dumb thing is the people that dont know how to operate a modern automobile.

As OG points out, modern cars have an AUTO feature for the lighting system.

Its brilliant system..... when it gets dark outside, the car senses it, and automatically turns on the headlights.

Imagine that?
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Those aren't the ones that are the problem, unless their 'auto' feature can be disabled while leaving the dash lights on. Then they are following the worst practices again. Comprende?
 
The first thing I noticed my TSX didnt have was auto headlights......kind of a surprise.

The gauges are always lit and dim down when the headlights are turned on. It pisses me off on a foggy day when I turn my headlights on my dash is now harder to see.
 
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caboose483 said:
I'm not sure which cars have it and which ones don't. My friend's 2011 Civic does not. The only visual cue inside is that the radio and hvac controls are dark. Both dash panels are fully lit at all times.

With all the recent innovations to assist stupid drivers, one would think that any car with perma-back-lit gauges would also come with auto lights.
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Oh ok. I stand corrected. I guess I just assumed it. It isn't something I ever paid attention to.
 
01cbr said:
The first thing I noticed my TSX didnt have was auto headlights......kind of a surprise.

The gauges are always lit and dim down when the headlights are turned on. It pisses me off on a foggy day when I turn my headlights on my dash is now harder to see.
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Pretty sure you can adjust the dash brightness to the same level as with the headlights off
 
D23 said:
2013 Honda Civic

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SunnY S said:
^^^

That ain't it.
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D23 said:
That's not the 2013 Civic?

Sorry, I guess the sporty wing threw you off....
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No, its just that I knew the pic you posted wasn't the correct 2013 North American Honda Civic. Thanks for coming out though!


2013 Honda Civic....

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http://blog.caranddriver.com/honda-releases-first-images-of-redesigned-2013-civic-sedan-ahead-of-debut-2012-l-a-auto-show/
 
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Ewww, thats fugly.
And thats supposed to be glamour shots

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Japanese and European car brands lead the pack for longevity


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...s-lead-the-pack-for-longevity/article6305604/

More than 79 per cent of all 11-15-year-old Japanese nameplates remain on the road today, while 78 per cent of the Europeans remain in service.

In the middle are 11-15-year-old vehicles from the Detroit car companies: General Motors at 64.2 per cent, Ford at 56.5 and Chrysler at 56.3.

On the other hand, just 45.7 per cent of Korean nameplates 11-15-years old remain on the road.


Conclusion......

"The point is, the perceived superior quality of Japanese and European brands is backed by facts. Those auto makers have both been building longer-lasting vehicles than Detroit’s manufacturers."



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Thats cuz the styling of earlier koreans were crap, nobody wants to keep that

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SunnY S said:
Japanese and European car brands lead the pack for longevity


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...s-lead-the-pack-for-longevity/article6305604/

More than 79 per cent of all 11-15-year-old Japanese nameplates remain on the road today, while 78 per cent of the Europeans remain in service.

In the middle are 11-15-year-old vehicles from the Detroit car companies: General Motors at 64.2 per cent, Ford at 56.5 and Chrysler at 56.3.

On the other hand, just 45.7 per cent of Korean nameplates 11-15-years old remain on the road.


Conclusion......

"The point is, the perceived superior quality of Japanese and European brands is backed by facts. Those auto makers have both been building longer-lasting vehicles than Detroit’s manufacturers."



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As the article states quality has been improving greatly. 15% difference is smaller than I expected (probably cause all those Jap cars a starting to fall apart from rust ). The difference in todays cars will really be nothing at all.
One of my cars is a 15 year old Domestic car, What are you driving?

Oh wait:


SunnY S said:
The current Ford I drive just about everyday currently has well over 400k on it.







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Go take a look at what Hyundai was making 15 years ago, and you tell me whether anyone would want to keep that. (assuming it hasn't fallen apart)

I'll hop in a '98 Jetta no problemo. I'm not entirely sure that the 2006 Jetta that I have now will make it to 15 years ... but that's because it already has 408,000 km on it right now!

edit: If you go back 15 years, that goes back to the ugly bubble-shaped Ford Taurus that no one liked and which featured a ticking time bomb automatic transmission. It goes back to the Chrysler LH cars, which looked good but had ticking-time-bomb transmissions and A/C, and heaven help if you got the 2.7 engine (oil burner - and not of the diesel variety). That was the era of the Cavalier aka Crapalier, and GM 60-degree V6 engines that ate intake manifold gaskets for lunch. That era had the last generation of the Ford Escort (the Focus wasn't out yet) and the first generation of the Chrysler Neon, which featured a head-gasket-eating engine mated to a rompin' stompin' 3 speed automatic transmission. AFAIK that was the last car in production with a 3 speed auto.

I'm reminded of the Neon because I saw a tow truck hauling one off to the glue factory today.
 
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Brian P said:
Go take a look at what Hyundai was making 15 years ago, and you tell me whether anyone would want to keep that. (assuming it hasn't fallen apart)

I'll hop in a '98 Jetta no problemo. I'm not entirely sure that the 2006 Jetta that I have now will make it to 15 years ... but that's because it already has 408,000 km on it right now!

edit: If you go back 15 years, that goes back to the ugly bubble-shaped Ford Taurus that no one liked and which featured a ticking time bomb automatic transmission. It goes back to the Chrysler LH cars, which looked good but had ticking-time-bomb transmissions and A/C, and heaven help if you got the 2.7 engine (oil burner - and not of the diesel variety). That was the era of the Cavalier aka Crapalier, and GM 60-degree V6 engines that ate intake manifold gaskets for lunch. That era had the last generation of the Ford Escort (the Focus wasn't out yet) and the first generation of the Chrysler Neon, which featured a head-gasket-eating engine mated to a rompin' stompin' 3 speed automatic transmission. AFAIK that was the last car in production with a 3 speed auto.

I'm reminded of the Neon because I saw a tow truck hauling one off to the glue factory today.
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All true, but the fact of the matter is that Japanese quality was good 15 years ago, just like it is today.

These tests confirm this.

Consistency is a good thing.
 
Both Honda and Hyundais quality was not very good when they entered the market......natural evolution.
 
SunnY S said:
Japanese and European car brands lead the pack for longevity


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...s-lead-the-pack-for-longevity/article6305604/

More than 79 per cent of all 11-15-year-old Japanese nameplates remain on the road today, while 78 per cent of the Europeans remain in service.

In the middle are 11-15-year-old vehicles from the Detroit car companies: General Motors at 64.2 per cent, Ford at 56.5 and Chrysler at 56.3.

On the other hand, just 45.7 per cent of Korean nameplates 11-15-years old remain on the road.


Conclusion......

"The point is, the perceived superior quality of Japanese and European brands is backed by facts. Those auto makers have both been building longer-lasting vehicles than Detroit’s manufacturers."



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They're talking about nameplates and brands, not vehicles. I don't think they understand the difference.
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