51st State? Or not.

I’m wondering if the liberals already handed out millions of dollars for Chinese to start up the new business they now have decided to not
 
Opinion by Robert Reich:

The New York Times describes Trump as leading “a global wave of hard-line conservative populism.”
Rubbish.
What Trump is undertaking has nothing whatever to do with conservatism, which is about conserving institutions and shrinking the size of government. And it has nothing to do with populism, which is about confronting elites.
Trump is leading a move to replace democracy with oligarchy.
He’s implementing a plan to make the wealthiest people in America far wealthier and more powerful, including Trump himself, and to turn American democracy into a giant corporation run by a handful of absurdly rich men.
He thinks he can accomplish this by getting the rest of us so angry at one another — over immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, diversity, and the like — that we don’t look upward and see where most of the wealth and power have gone.
Trump’s divisive policies will cause great harm, to be sure, and we must do everything we can to protect those who are vulnerable to them. But his cruel divisiveness is deflecting attention from the main event.
The media reported on all the hot-buttons Trump pushed: The government now recognizes only two “immutable” genders, male and female. Migrants (now referred to as “aliens”) are being turned away at the border. Immigration agents are freed to target hospitals, schools, and churches in search of people to deport. Diversity efforts in the federal government have been dismantled and employees turned into snitches. Federal money will be barred from paying for many abortions.
All awful to be sure, but the bigger story is Trump’s consolidation of power — substituting loyalists for experts across the government, using retribution to intimidate others, purging the government’s independent inspectors general, giving the Defense Department more authority over civilian life (and putting a raving loyalist in charge), giving Elon Musk authority to cut spending and roll back regulations, and readying a massive tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.
Americans aren’t seeing this big story yet because Trump’s divisiveness is masking it.
One example: Trump fired Lina Khan, the aggressive monopoly-buster chair of the Federal Trade Commission, and replaced her with corporate stooge Andrew Ferguson. As a result, giant corporations and their CEOs are now free to get even bigger — merging with one another, acquiring smaller companies, and using predatory bullying to wipe out competitors. These are key steps on the road toward even more concentrated oligarchic control.
Yet what’s been reported this week is that Ferguson is purging diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies from the Federal Trade Commission.
I’m not playing down the importance of DEI. I’m just saying that the really big shift is happening behind the rightward flip. In fact, the terms “left” and “right” mean less and less now. The big story is about power and wealth moving into fewer and fewer hands.
Trump is the frontman. The three richest men in the world (Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg) stood prominently before him when he was sworn in last week. Trump has appointed other billionaires to key positions.
Behind them is a coterie of billionaires pushing for more oligarchic control of America (among them, Peter Thiel, Blake Masters, tech entrepreneur David Sacks, Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, Palantir adviser Jacob Helberg, and Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone).
Their two key inside players are Musk and JD Vance.
The oligarchs are counting on Vance to become president when Trump is incapacitated or dies in office, or clings to power beyond 2028 and turns power over to Vance. Vance will manage the final transition to an oligarchic form of government.
Recall that Vance would never have been elected senator from Ohio in 2022 were it not for Thiel’s $15 million investment in him (by far the largest portion of Vance’s campaign fund).
Thiel knew what he was buying. Vance had worked for Thiel’s California venture capital firm before running for the Senate and was part of Thiel’s group of rich crypto bros, tech executives, back-to-the-landers, and disaffected far-right intellectuals.
Because Thiel had been a major funder of Trump’s 2016 presidential run, he had significant influence with Trump when urging him to pick Vance for vice president.
Thiel once wrote: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Hello? Freedom is incompatible with democracy only if you view democracy as a potential constraint on your wealth and power.
That’s the whole point. Thiel and his fellow billionaire oligarchs want it all.
Their intellectual godfather is Curtis Yarvin, a 51-year-old computer engineer who believes that political power in the United States has been held by a liberal amalgam of universities and the mainstream media, whose commitment to equality and justice is eroding social order.
Yarvin thinks democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful. They should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major “shareholders” select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure. Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime.
The first step toward achieving Yarvin’s vision was offered by Vance in a 2021 podcast — replace “every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state … with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say” – as did Andrew Jackson – that “the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
Yarvin’s emphasis on the inefficiency of democratic government is the seed for Musk’s department of government efficiency, itself another step toward Yarvin’s joint-stock corporation of oligarchs.
A third step: cryptocurrency substitutes for the U.S. dollar. This would shift financial controls out of a democratically elected system of government and into the hands of oligarchs who control crypto.
Make no mistake: Trump’s first week was a catastrophe for many vulnerable people. But the biggest story was his startling initial moves from democracy to oligarchy.
My hope lies in Americans noticing this.
As I’ve said, not since the Gilded Age of the late 19th century has such vast wealth turned itself into power so unapologetically, unashamedly, and defiantly.
Americans don’t abide aristocracy. We were founded in revolt against unaccountable power and wealth. We will not tolerate this barefaced takeover.
The backlash, when it comes, will be stunning.
 
Remember "peak oil"? Oil industry has been saying since the '60s we've used more than half the world reserves of oil/gas since 1900 and we're running out
... which brought on another energy crisis, which was bolstered by "climate change"
... and we're all gonna freeze in the dark and starve cuz there will be no food

And FINALLY the world decided to act: with more efficient cars/trucks, heat pumps, wind farms, solar... basically reducing our dependence on fossil fuels will save us... REMEMBER?

That all changed, at least in Trump and his cronies minds, when the US started fracking shale. Shale gas/oil changed EVERYTHING. The US now has the 2nd or 3rd largest oil/gas reserves in the world.
So NOW we're supposed to throw all that climate change and efficiency out the window and buy US oil. IT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY... the US economy, the rest of us can choke on the fumes. Drill baby drill... screw the rest of the world.
Canada MIGHT be sitting on HUGE oil and gas reserves under the tar sands, I haven't seen any testing to see if we do. Most of the EU has no interest in fracking shale, way too much chance of fouling the drinking water in densely populated areas. The middle east is looking at fracking pretty hard.
 
TK4 said:
Opinion by Robert Reich:

The New York Times describes Trump as leading “a global wave of hard-line conservative populism.”
Rubbish.
What Trump is undertaking has nothing whatever to do with conservatism, which is about conserving institutions and shrinking the size of government. And it has nothing to do with populism, which is about confronting elites.
Trump is leading a move to replace democracy with oligarchy.
He’s implementing a plan to make the wealthiest people in America far wealthier and more powerful, including Trump himself, and to turn American democracy into a giant corporation run by a handful of absurdly rich men.
He thinks he can accomplish this by getting the rest of us so angry at one another — over immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, diversity, and the like — that we don’t look upward and see where most of the wealth and power have gone.
Trump’s divisive policies will cause great harm, to be sure, and we must do everything we can to protect those who are vulnerable to them. But his cruel divisiveness is deflecting attention from the main event.
The media reported on all the hot-buttons Trump pushed: The government now recognizes only two “immutable” genders, male and female. Migrants (now referred to as “aliens”) are being turned away at the border. Immigration agents are freed to target hospitals, schools, and churches in search of people to deport. Diversity efforts in the federal government have been dismantled and employees turned into snitches. Federal money will be barred from paying for many abortions.
All awful to be sure, but the bigger story is Trump’s consolidation of power — substituting loyalists for experts across the government, using retribution to intimidate others, purging the government’s independent inspectors general, giving the Defense Department more authority over civilian life (and putting a raving loyalist in charge), giving Elon Musk authority to cut spending and roll back regulations, and readying a massive tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.
Americans aren’t seeing this big story yet because Trump’s divisiveness is masking it.
One example: Trump fired Lina Khan, the aggressive monopoly-buster chair of the Federal Trade Commission, and replaced her with corporate stooge Andrew Ferguson. As a result, giant corporations and their CEOs are now free to get even bigger — merging with one another, acquiring smaller companies, and using predatory bullying to wipe out competitors. These are key steps on the road toward even more concentrated oligarchic control.
Yet what’s been reported this week is that Ferguson is purging diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies from the Federal Trade Commission.
I’m not playing down the importance of DEI. I’m just saying that the really big shift is happening behind the rightward flip. In fact, the terms “left” and “right” mean less and less now. The big story is about power and wealth moving into fewer and fewer hands.
Trump is the frontman. The three richest men in the world (Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg) stood prominently before him when he was sworn in last week. Trump has appointed other billionaires to key positions.
Behind them is a coterie of billionaires pushing for more oligarchic control of America (among them, Peter Thiel, Blake Masters, tech entrepreneur David Sacks, Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, Palantir adviser Jacob Helberg, and Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone).
Their two key inside players are Musk and JD Vance.
The oligarchs are counting on Vance to become president when Trump is incapacitated or dies in office, or clings to power beyond 2028 and turns power over to Vance. Vance will manage the final transition to an oligarchic form of government.
Recall that Vance would never have been elected senator from Ohio in 2022 were it not for Thiel’s $15 million investment in him (by far the largest portion of Vance’s campaign fund).
Thiel knew what he was buying. Vance had worked for Thiel’s California venture capital firm before running for the Senate and was part of Thiel’s group of rich crypto bros, tech executives, back-to-the-landers, and disaffected far-right intellectuals.
Because Thiel had been a major funder of Trump’s 2016 presidential run, he had significant influence with Trump when urging him to pick Vance for vice president.
Thiel once wrote: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Hello? Freedom is incompatible with democracy only if you view democracy as a potential constraint on your wealth and power.
That’s the whole point. Thiel and his fellow billionaire oligarchs want it all.
Their intellectual godfather is Curtis Yarvin, a 51-year-old computer engineer who believes that political power in the United States has been held by a liberal amalgam of universities and the mainstream media, whose commitment to equality and justice is eroding social order.
Yarvin thinks democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful. They should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major “shareholders” select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure. Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime.
The first step toward achieving Yarvin’s vision was offered by Vance in a 2021 podcast — replace “every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state … with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say” – as did Andrew Jackson – that “the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
Yarvin’s emphasis on the inefficiency of democratic government is the seed for Musk’s department of government efficiency, itself another step toward Yarvin’s joint-stock corporation of oligarchs.
A third step: cryptocurrency substitutes for the U.S. dollar. This would shift financial controls out of a democratically elected system of government and into the hands of oligarchs who control crypto.
Make no mistake: Trump’s first week was a catastrophe for many vulnerable people. But the biggest story was his startling initial moves from democracy to oligarchy.
My hope lies in Americans noticing this.
As I’ve said, not since the Gilded Age of the late 19th century has such vast wealth turned itself into power so unapologetically, unashamedly, and defiantly.
Americans don’t abide aristocracy. We were founded in revolt against unaccountable power and wealth. We will not tolerate this barefaced takeover.
The backlash, when it comes, will be stunning.
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Now that is some next level TDS, holy ****.
 
DownUnder said:
Now that is some next level TDS, holy ****.
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How 'bout instead of inferring that people that disagree with you have some sort of non-existent medical condition, YOU come up with some sort of counter argument.
You trying to insult people for having an opinion has got old. I personally think your repeated reference to "TDS" make you look like a fool with nothing to add but childish insults.
So tell us: Where are we going wrong? (THIS OUTTA BE GOOD)
 
bitzz said:
Remember "peak oil"? Oil industry has been saying since the '60s we've used more than half the world reserves of oil/gas since 1900 and we're running out
... which brought on another energy crisis, which was bolstered by "climate change"
... and we're all gonna freeze in the dark and starve cuz there will be no food

And FINALLY the world decided to act: with more efficient cars/trucks, heat pumps, wind farms, solar... basically reducing our dependence on fossil fuels will save us... REMEMBER?

That all changed, at least in Trump and his cronies minds, when the US started fracking shale. Shale gas/oil changed EVERYTHING. The US now has the 2nd or 3rd largest oil/gas reserves in the world.
So NOW we're supposed to throw all that climate change and efficiency out the window and buy US oil. IT'S GOOD FOR THE ECONOMY... the US economy, the rest of us can choke on the fumes. Drill baby drill... screw the rest of the world.
Canada MIGHT be sitting on HUGE oil and gas reserves under the tar sands, I haven't seen any testing to see if we do. Most of the EU has no interest in fracking shale, way too much chance of fouling the drinking water in densely populated areas. The middle east is looking at fracking pretty hard.
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So while half the entire worlds coal power plants are chugging away in China and in India dumptruck loads of garbage are driven to the shore and dumped into the Indian ocean every minute, a country like America should make it's citizens suffer economically to help the environment?

Why should a country sign onto ANY environmental protection program when the biggest polluters in the world don't give a **** and will continue doing thier thing.
 
Donald’s reference to this being Americas next gilded age was not off the mark. If your the new Carnegie or Rockefeller things will be just fine . I fear Joe average is in for an unexpected tough time . Oligarchs, it’s not just a Russian thing .


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bitzz said:
How 'bout instead of inferring that people that disagree with you have some sort of non-existent medical condition, YOU come up with some sort of counter argument.
You trying to insult people for having an opinion has got old. I personally think your repeated reference to "TDS" make you look like a fool with nothing to add but childish insults.
So tell us: Where are we going wrong? (THIS OUTTA BE GOOD)
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The entire piece was a hypocritical word salad.

TK4 said:
The big story is about power and wealth moving into fewer and fewer hands.
Trump is the frontman. The three richest men in the world (Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg) stood prominently before him when he was sworn in last week. Trump has appointed other billionaires to key positions
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During covid when $3trillion moved from the lower and middle class to the elites, people like that author and the left didn't give a ****.

When Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg were on the left and doing the government's bidding Noone blinked an eye. Now however we should ALL be outraged... yeah, nah, noone cares anymore.
 
TK4 said:
Opinion by Robert Reich:

The New York Times describes Trump as leading “a global wave of hard-line conservative populism.”
Rubbish.
What Trump is undertaking has nothing whatever to do with conservatism, which is about conserving institutions and shrinking the size of government. And it has nothing to do with populism, which is about confronting elites.
Trump is leading a move to replace democracy with oligarchy.
He’s implementing a plan to make the wealthiest people in America far wealthier and more powerful, including Trump himself, and to turn American democracy into a giant corporation run by a handful of absurdly rich men.
He thinks he can accomplish this by getting the rest of us so angry at one another — over immigration, LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, diversity, and the like — that we don’t look upward and see where most of the wealth and power have gone.
Trump’s divisive policies will cause great harm, to be sure, and we must do everything we can to protect those who are vulnerable to them. But his cruel divisiveness is deflecting attention from the main event.
The media reported on all the hot-buttons Trump pushed: The government now recognizes only two “immutable” genders, male and female. Migrants (now referred to as “aliens”) are being turned away at the border. Immigration agents are freed to target hospitals, schools, and churches in search of people to deport. Diversity efforts in the federal government have been dismantled and employees turned into snitches. Federal money will be barred from paying for many abortions.
All awful to be sure, but the bigger story is Trump’s consolidation of power — substituting loyalists for experts across the government, using retribution to intimidate others, purging the government’s independent inspectors general, giving the Defense Department more authority over civilian life (and putting a raving loyalist in charge), giving Elon Musk authority to cut spending and roll back regulations, and readying a massive tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.
Americans aren’t seeing this big story yet because Trump’s divisiveness is masking it.
One example: Trump fired Lina Khan, the aggressive monopoly-buster chair of the Federal Trade Commission, and replaced her with corporate stooge Andrew Ferguson. As a result, giant corporations and their CEOs are now free to get even bigger — merging with one another, acquiring smaller companies, and using predatory bullying to wipe out competitors. These are key steps on the road toward even more concentrated oligarchic control.
Yet what’s been reported this week is that Ferguson is purging diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies from the Federal Trade Commission.
I’m not playing down the importance of DEI. I’m just saying that the really big shift is happening behind the rightward flip. In fact, the terms “left” and “right” mean less and less now. The big story is about power and wealth moving into fewer and fewer hands.
Trump is the frontman. The three richest men in the world (Musk, Jeff Bezos, and Mark Zuckerberg) stood prominently before him when he was sworn in last week. Trump has appointed other billionaires to key positions.
Behind them is a coterie of billionaires pushing for more oligarchic control of America (among them, Peter Thiel, Blake Masters, tech entrepreneur David Sacks, Palantir co-founder Joe Lonsdale, Palantir adviser Jacob Helberg, and Sequoia Capital’s Doug Leone).
Their two key inside players are Musk and JD Vance.
The oligarchs are counting on Vance to become president when Trump is incapacitated or dies in office, or clings to power beyond 2028 and turns power over to Vance. Vance will manage the final transition to an oligarchic form of government.
Recall that Vance would never have been elected senator from Ohio in 2022 were it not for Thiel’s $15 million investment in him (by far the largest portion of Vance’s campaign fund).
Thiel knew what he was buying. Vance had worked for Thiel’s California venture capital firm before running for the Senate and was part of Thiel’s group of rich crypto bros, tech executives, back-to-the-landers, and disaffected far-right intellectuals.
Because Thiel had been a major funder of Trump’s 2016 presidential run, he had significant influence with Trump when urging him to pick Vance for vice president.
Thiel once wrote: “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.” Hello? Freedom is incompatible with democracy only if you view democracy as a potential constraint on your wealth and power.
That’s the whole point. Thiel and his fellow billionaire oligarchs want it all.
Their intellectual godfather is Curtis Yarvin, a 51-year-old computer engineer who believes that political power in the United States has been held by a liberal amalgam of universities and the mainstream media, whose commitment to equality and justice is eroding social order.
Yarvin thinks democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful. They should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose major “shareholders” select an executive with total power, who serves at their pleasure. Yarvin refers to the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime.
The first step toward achieving Yarvin’s vision was offered by Vance in a 2021 podcast — replace “every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state … with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country, and say” – as did Andrew Jackson – that “the chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.”
Yarvin’s emphasis on the inefficiency of democratic government is the seed for Musk’s department of government efficiency, itself another step toward Yarvin’s joint-stock corporation of oligarchs.
A third step: cryptocurrency substitutes for the U.S. dollar. This would shift financial controls out of a democratically elected system of government and into the hands of oligarchs who control crypto.
Make no mistake: Trump’s first week was a catastrophe for many vulnerable people. But the biggest story was his startling initial moves from democracy to oligarchy.
My hope lies in Americans noticing this.
As I’ve said, not since the Gilded Age of the late 19th century has such vast wealth turned itself into power so unapologetically, unashamedly, and defiantly.
Americans don’t abide aristocracy. We were founded in revolt against unaccountable power and wealth. We will not tolerate this barefaced takeover.
The backlash, when it comes, will be stunning.
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Been awhile since I read such far out conspiracies. I recall most of this drivel was being spouted back in 2016. Practically none of it came true.

If Trump had the King behind him someone would have been spinning a return of the Monarchy.

'clings to power past 2028'

LOL. Easy target I guess but it's still laughable.

A for effort on the attempt I guess.
 
DownUnder said:
So while half the entire worlds coal power plants are chugging away in China
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China leads the word in solar energy, is one of world leaders in wind, are building more atomic energy than anyone else. China is doing the whole industrial revolution thing in two generations, something the western world took two centuries to do and one of the prices of that was to use the cheapest, easiest energy sources possible: coal... and China recognized that and went into renewable harder than anyone else (ya want a solar panel? It'll be made in China).
China has brought more people out of poverty in the last 40 years, using this energy plan, than the US has in it's entirety. Burning coal had huge environmental costs, but the payoff was bringing hundreds of millions of people out of poverty.

So what is your excuse for the US still burning so much coal... the richest economy in the world can't adapt to renewables as fast as China... or India, or Japan, or... pretty well anybody else... and now Mr. Trump has removed almost all incentive to "go green" and has re-directed all that into DRILL BABY DRILL... MORE hydrocarbons.
You DO know the US is in the top three polluters in the world... #2 in CO2 (don't fret: Canada is right up there. When we factor in the methane leakage at abandoned well heads that the oil industry has been lying a bout for the last 125 years we MIGHT be #2 in CO2 emissions).
So MY question is: How does the US get off PROMOTING hydrocarbons, while the rest of the world is trying to do the exact opposite. Getting OFF hydrocarbons cost non hydrocarbon producing countries a lot more than hydro carbon producing countries. The cheapest thing for China's economy is to burn coal and other hydro carbons (like that cheap oil and gas from Russia... that is priced low because OPEC and the US are holding the price down artificially)... BUT NO, China leads the world in renewables... as the US promotes hydro carbons.
So according to the scorekeeping of a lot of us earthlings: China is going forward, the US is going backward. China's use of hydro carbons for energy is going down, while the US's use is going up (or at least that's what the current government wants).
China used air pollution to feed and clothe it's 1.41 billion citizens. The US is promoting air pollution to make 12 billionaires even richer.

Must be TDS... right?
And a lot of that Indian plastic garbage that ended up in the ocean had english writing on it. The west DUMPED billions of tons of trash on Asia... and called it recycling and our government paid for it to be shipped there.
 
bitzz said:
China leads the word in solar energy, is one of world leaders in wind, are building more atomic energy than anyone else. China is doing the whole industrial revolution thing in two generations, something the western world took two centuries to do and one of the prices of that was to use the cheapest, easiest energy sources possible: coal... and China recognized that and went into renewable harder than anyone else (ya want a solar panel? It'll be made in China).
China has brought more people out of poverty in the last 40 years, using this energy plan, than the US has in it's entirety. Burning coal had huge environmental costs, but the payoff was bringing hundreds of millions of people out of poverty.

So what is your excuse for the US still burning so much coal... the richest economy in the world can't adapt to renewables as fast as China... or India, or Japan, or... pretty well anybody else... and now Mr. Trump has removed almost all incentive to "go green" and has re-directed all that into DRILL BABY DRILL... MORE hydrocarbons.
You DO know the US is in the top three polluters in the world... #2 in CO2 (don't fret: Canada is right up there. When we factor in the methane leakage at abandoned well heads that the oil industry has been lying a bout for the last 125 years we MIGHT be #2 in CO2 emissions).
So MY question is: How does the US get off PROMOTING hydrocarbons, while the rest of the world is trying to do the exact opposite. Getting OFF hydrocarbons cost non hydrocarbon producing countries a lot more than hydro carbon producing countries. The cheapest thing for China's economy is to burn coal and other hydro carbons (like that cheap oil and gas from Russia... that is priced low because OPEC and the US are holding the price down artificially)... BUT NO, China leads the world in renewables... as the US promotes hydro carbons.
So according to the scorekeeping of a lot of us earthlings: China is going forward, the US is going backward. China's use of hydro carbons for energy is going down, while the US's use is going up (or at least that's what the current government wants).
China used air pollution to feed and clothe it's 1.41 billion citizens. The US is promoting air pollution to make 12 billionaires even richer.

Must be TDS... right?
And a lot of that Indian plastic garbage that ended up in the ocean had english writing on it. The west DUMPED billions of tons of trash on Asia... and called it recycling and our government paid for it to be shipped there.
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So Today, China is allowed to pollute the hell out of the planet to enrich members of its communist party but the west has to answer for the sins of its father?


"Everybody else is moving away from coal and China seems to be stepping on the gas," she says. "We saw that China has six times as much plants starting construction as the rest of the world combined."
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The only reason China makes solar and wind stuff is because the west subsidizes and they can make crazy amount of money from it.
 
All the coal mined in Canada is shipped to China, Japan, india, Taiwan, with only 4% shipped to the states
 
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