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don't think you're gonna see water proof hard panniers for the BMW or the Aprilia......
don't think you're gonna see water proof hard panniers for the BMW or the Aprilia......
I ask because it seems like you have a budget, you may be surprised that a few of these are really race replicas with higher bars and lower foot pegs and some insurance companies know it.I'm 40 with full m...not worried
Not sure about the 790, but the other 3 only get around 200km to a tank. Just something to consider if you`re touring.So a few bikes I have come down to and one which is slightly out of budget.
2015 BMW s1000r 11k
2014 Aprilia tuono 11k
2019 my 09
2019 ktm 790 super Duke... although this got great reviews looks so much like a toy...I will be using everyday and long trips.
The mt I know is like a toy as well, but the reliability of a Yamaha and low maintenance is hard to argue with
Not sure about the 790, but the other 3 only get around 200km to a tank. Just something to consider if you`re touring.
There's a few threads on s1kr forums of people never being able to squeeze 17l in that thing, so their range has maxed out about 250, less if ridden with any gusto.Actually just the mt sucks for this or i wouldn't even think twice...BMW has a 17 l tank
Maybe an older S1000R, don't think you'll find an XR under $18k.Is that not another reason to go to the S1000XR ...it has 20 liter tank and should be good luggage options.
Maybe an older S1000R, don't think you'll find an XR under $18k.
If you're looking at 4 year old Euro bikes, you might find it cheaper to step up the budget and buy new or near new. Bikes from the west can have punishing cost of ownership once out of warranty.
I'm 40 with full m...not worried
That's true...and i haven't called but I guess also depends on insurerIt’s a false sense of security and a bad assumption that age and license status equates to cheap insurance for everything. The one time cost savings of a particular model can easily be offset by the ongoing cost of insurance. In another thread I posted a comparative quote for the KTM790 and it was 50% more than the Tuono. It was about the same as an RSV4 which surprised me.
I was in the same boat as you at the beginning of last season. I have been riding for 18 years, and always riding older cheaper bikes. I wanted something new (or new-er). Got it down to a Tuono, or an fz09.That's what worries me...hence maybe the smaller tank of the jap bikes might be worth it
I was in the same boat as you at the beginning of last season. I have been riding for 18 years, and always riding older cheaper bikes. I wanted something new (or new-er). Got it down to a Tuono, or an fz09.
Fz was $11 grand + otd for a new one; or I pick up a Tuono in Montreal for $16 otd (left over '17 in march 2018).
Fz will never be a tuono... I would have been happy with it, but in rationalizing my purchase, I talked with one of my cousins who rides. He said "will an fz09 blow your hair back like the Tuono?". I'm sure I'd enjoy it, but after putting decent suspension on it, a pipe, quick shifter - I am rapidly approaching the cost of the Tuono (stock suspension is great, quick shifter, cruise control, steering damper -all stock). Maintenance costs will be a bit more than a Jap bike, but its all about smiles-per-mile...
Fz/mt is becoming the bike of choice for those who want supersport performance without the sportbike surcharge. Insurance companies are catching on to this. My tuono is under $1100 a year (clean record) full coverage. My old honda vtr1000 was that much for liability only...
I'm two years younger than you. Just get it. I'm sure you can stomach the cost of a few thousand more at 40.
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That's so funny I have a vtr1000 in my garage now lol.
I guess thats a big thing for me is maintenance seeing I have always worked on my Jap bikes no problem..the Italian ones I have no clue.
There is a 15 tuono on kijiji for 11k with 10k on it which would fit as well.
FZ09 valve checks are like twice the distance of the Tuono. V4 easier to check then the Triple? Not sure about that.Not much difference on the maintenance side. 12k valve check and adjustment. There is a cam holding tool to keep it in time when the shims need to be changed. I'd rather buy the tools and do it myself in the off season. Even early valve checks just in-case.
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Sorry, 12,000 miles or 20,000km. I'd always check it early. Same with my japanese bikes, just in-case.FZ09 valve checks are like twice the distance of the Tuono. V4 easier to check then the Triple? Not sure about that.
I think it's 17 on the s1000r same as tuono...mt09 is out now can't do 14 l tankIs that not another reason to go to the S1000XR ...it has 20 liter tank and should be good luggage options.
Tank size is generally a problem on the Yamaha triples ...my son's was pathetic tho that was an inline 4.
4.8 liter on the FJ09
2015 Yamaha FJ09 - V3347 - No Payments For 1 Year** | Sport Touring | City of Toronto | Kijiji
Maybe but with a top notch bike like the tuono it's expected...plus I can do those checks and adjustments...it's a forever bike anywaysFZ09 valve checks are like twice the distance of the Tuono. V4 easier to check then the Triple? Not sure about that.
Thought Tuono was every 15k km? I'd be checking it twice a year at that interval, which, last i heard that's a $700+ job at mechanics.Sorry, 12,000 miles or 20,000km. I'd always check it early. Same with my japanese bikes, just in-case.
Fz09 is 100hp, 847cc
Tuono is 175hp, 1077cc. Much higher strung. Maintenance intervals will be earlier.
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Ensure you hit the forums, horror stories there about Aprilia specific tools that were ordered and still don't fit properly.Maybe but with a top notch bike like the tuono it's expected...plus I can do those checks and adjustments...it's a forever bike anyways