If it’s not enforced is it really illegal? I’m seeing more and more tinted plates so dark you can’t even read the plate unless you’re 5ft away.
Illegal…but no one cares.
Any GTAM'ers own an electric vehicle?
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Illegal…but no one cares.
Those references are related to plate and validation. I don't think you'd have trouble beating the ticket if you added a badge. The plate was on the vehicle that it was authorized for. You could dress the vehicle up as a dinosaur and that would still not be a valid ticket. Validations are all dead now so section e is almost meaningless (conceivably you could still have an old fake sticker on a plate).
That actually is illegal. I expect police to start caring more about this as they lean more heavily on ALPR.
Number plate to be kept clean
(2) Every number plate shall be kept free from dirt and obstruction and shall be affixed so that the entire number plate, including the numbers, is plainly visible at all times, and the view of the number plate shall not be obscured or obstructed by spare tires, bumper bars, any part of the vehicle, any attachments to the vehicle or the load carried. 1994, c. 27, s. 138 (7).
Obstruction prohibited
(3) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being accurately photographed using an automated speed enforcement system. 2017, c. 9, s. 3.
Same
(3.0.1) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being accurately photographed using a red light camera system. 1998, c. 38, s. 2 (1).
Same
(3.1) The number plates shall not be obstructed by any device or material that prevents the entire number plates including the numbers from being identified by an electronic toll system. 1996, c. 1, Sched. E, s. 2 (1).
Offence
(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (2), (3), (3.0.1) or (3.1) is guilty of an offence. 1993, c. 31, s. 2 (5); 1996, c. 1, Sched. E, s. 2 (2); 1998, c. 38, s. 2 (2).
It wouldn't be illegal unless you were trying to commit some sort of fraud by doing it.
The paperwork is tied to the official make and model.. a lot of times the model name on paperwork, like ownership, doesn't match the model name badged on the car.
You can order vehicles without badging.
I had my evo badges changed to regular lancer badges. 330i badges on an M3, etc..
Everyone knows it's illegal...but no one cares. The only time I've heard of that charge being used is as an add-on.
Hell I got stopped near your place about 15 years ago with a CLEAR cover on my plates and the OPP officer decided to give me just a warning. And that plate was clear!
Fact is that those plate covers are sold all over the place (including Service Ontario), and no one actually cares.
I guess it's one of those things that's up to the officer to decide. I'm sure an officer having a bad day could say, your plate is registered to a tesla but I see you're driving an audi, here's a ticket.
I've heard of people getting ticketed for having a clear licence plate cover.
I've heard of people getting ticketed for having a clear licence plate cover.
An officer can lay all sorts of BS tickets. JP should toss that one easily as it's clearly not an HTA violation. The plate is on the vehicle it was registered too. Present that paperwork in court and it's over for the prosecution. There is no requirement or law that prevents you from altering the appearance. Hell, you can body kit a corvette to make it look like a lamborghini and that is entirely legal as the vin matches the ownership and registered plate.
Loving the heck out of the Ioniq thus far, as is my wife. We've done a few good multi-hundred km trips in it now and range anxiety is basically zero now with the long range pack. I am looking forward to taking off the snow tires and getting the range back into the 500's.
I may have to up our charging game here at home though - with the 16A EVSE setup's that we've had for the last 7ish or whatever years, well, that was fine for the Volts, and even for our first Ioniq with the small battery, but with 60+kwh to charge now, it's not speedy lets just say. Lots of nights it's charging for a solid 10-12 hours to recoup my wife's commute and sometime a trip up to Port Perry afterwards to visit family. When she arrived home from a big trip a week or so back it was showing 20 hours for a full charge. I dunno...once summer rolls around and consumption goes down, it might be fine....the scenario where we do two big trips back to back and need to be back to 100% on a short turnaround would be very uncommon. In the 20 hour situation, she just went to work the next morning with "only" 50% charge (still 250ish KM, way more than enough) and the car got back to my usual 80% setpoint the following nights charge cycle. That was fine.
I may have to up our charging game here at home though - with the 16A EVSE setup's that we've had for the last 7ish or whatever years, well, that was fine for the Volts, and even for our first Ioniq with the small battery, but with 60+kwh to charge now, it's not speedy lets just say. Lots of nights it's charging for a solid 10-12 hours to recoup my wife's commute and sometime a trip up to Port Perry afterwards to visit family. When she arrived home from a big trip a week or so back it was showing 20 hours for a full charge. I dunno...once summer rolls around and consumption goes down, it might be fine....the scenario where we do two big trips back to back and need to be back to 100% on a short turnaround would be very uncommon. In the 20 hour situation, she just went to work the next morning with "only" 50% charge (still 250ish KM, way more than enough) and the car got back to my usual 80% setpoint the following nights charge cycle. That was fine.
Dirty Frank
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Didn't know that was a thing back in the day i was guilty of swapping side covers that said 1100 for ones that read 750, my bad...
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I snagged a brand new EV charger from the King of the North auction for $60. The same one retails for $200 on Amazon. Charges my car at 32 amps or 7KW, for my car that works out to about 10% per hour.
They seem to sell a few different models every week: Search Results | King of the North Auction
I don't see the kind I bought available this week. Only catch is, you gotta drive to Barrie to pick it up, not sure if that's worth it to you.
Thanks. I have a new 32a EVSE already, scored it a few months back from FB marketplace for $100 brand new.
It’s just the 40a circuit to feed it that’s the issue. It’ll be costly to install given where it needs to go in relation to our main panel, and I’m not sure we’ll even have the overhead to remain in code as our house only has 100a service. Remember that we need to maintain the other existing 20 amp @ 240 plug as well for my car as well. I’ve yet to explore things too much but I expect it to be a multi-thousand dollar deal, even more if they need to replace the underground wires between the house and the transformer 3 houses away to upgrade us to 200a service - we’d probably be in the $5-$8K range at that point I was told years ago.
In short, none of that may be worth it for faster charging if ultimately what we have will do the job. If it means we need to fast charge occasionally to recoup the battery to a higher SOC in the rare occasion we need to do another big drive the day after exhausting the battery, well, a $10 quick charge a few times a year is a lot less than a $8k panel upgrade and new wiring to a garage plug.
It’s just the 40a circuit to feed it that’s the issue. It’ll be costly to install given where it needs to go in relation to our main panel, and I’m not sure we’ll even have the overhead to remain in code as our house only has 100a service. Remember that we need to maintain the other existing 20 amp @ 240 plug as well for my car as well. I’ve yet to explore things too much but I expect it to be a multi-thousand dollar deal, even more if they need to replace the underground wires between the house and the transformer 3 houses away to upgrade us to 200a service - we’d probably be in the $5-$8K range at that point I was told years ago.
In short, none of that may be worth it for faster charging if ultimately what we have will do the job. If it means we need to fast charge occasionally to recoup the battery to a higher SOC in the rare occasion we need to do another big drive the day after exhausting the battery, well, a $10 quick charge a few times a year is a lot less than a $8k panel upgrade and new wiring to a garage plug.
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When I had my Volt I found a VOLTEC unit for super cheap as the internal fuse was a common failure point. Picked it up for $80 or so 5+ years ago and replaced internal fuse with 20/25A (can’t remember).
If we go full EV I’ll take that one to the cottage and pick up a new one.
Getting closer to pulling the trigger.
IONIQ5 - lovely but can’t fit in budget
Bolt EUV - looks to be at top of list
Maverick Hybrid - would prefer Ecoboost but can’t find what I want in my price
That’s what I’m focusing my search on while the GTI is still in warranty and has good trade in value.
If we go full EV I’ll take that one to the cottage and pick up a new one.
Getting closer to pulling the trigger.
IONIQ5 - lovely but can’t fit in budget
Bolt EUV - looks to be at top of list
Maverick Hybrid - would prefer Ecoboost but can’t find what I want in my price
That’s what I’m focusing my search on while the GTI is still in warranty and has good trade in value.
A good friend is a master electrician and did EV plug installs for years if you want someone to quote/do the work.
Are you just using a standard 5-15 plug now? You might be able to replace it with a 5-20 (depending on the gauge of the wires). It'll only boost your charge speed slightly over 5-15 but it might be worth it.
On that front, I probably know the answer but as you have been monitoring your usage for years, can that count for anything? If you can show that over years you have never used more than 50A at once, adding 32 more seems reasonable and safe.
Thx. What end of the city is he on?
I have 2 20a 240 circuits out there which allows 2x Level 1.5 (16a at 240v on 2 circuits vs the 32 on one) which has always fit our needs as the Volt can’t charge faster than 16a anyways, and with only 10-20kwh to recover nightly, it was fine. Now that we’re potentially trying to recover close to 70kwh of the Ioniq is basically dead on arriving home, that math is much different.
If I gave up both of the 16 amp/240 V circuits we would probably have the panel overhead for a single 40a/240v circuit in the garage which would provide us with one true level two charger, the downside is that I would be relegated to using level one with my volt, bringing charge times up into the 8–10 hour range. That’s workable honestly in most situations, and if I wanted to charge faster I could simply use my wife’s plug instead from the Ioniq, so I’ll think about it.
When it comes to EV usage things get weird as it is considered a “constant load“ or something like that, meaning that the circuit capacity has to be overrated versus a more traditional load. You can draw 15 A from a 15 amp kitchen or living room receptacle for example and be perfectly fine by code, but legally as I understand it, only 32 A of a 40a EV circuit, because EV. I think that some other loads like AC and possibly the range plug are rated at the same, meaning that out of the 100 A available on the panel, realistically only 75 or 80 are actually useable by code - you can’t max out to 100a indefinitely.
Do we get up to 80a on the panel? I’ve seen it happen on my meter, but had to try really hard, i.e. having all four elements on the stove going, the oven on and heating, air conditioning on, both cars charging at 16 A, and other household loads. But with 40 A of that suddenly dedicated to a single plug in the garage, this is where I am starting to think there might be code issues. At least we don’t have an electric dryer, or even a plug anymore as that circuit was repurposed for a pony panel feeding the 2x16a / 240 in the garage for the existing EV plugs.
Relax
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I'd be tempted to reconfigure your circuits to supply one 32A 240V EVSE and charge the Volt from a wall plug. You can always stick the Volt on the big charger for a short splash.
My Grizzl-E is set up at 24A 240VAC and it's always capable of fully charging my car overnight. Your battery is bigger, though.
My Grizzl-E is set up at 24A 240VAC and it's always capable of fully charging my car overnight. Your battery is bigger, though.
He's in West End Etobicoke but travels for work all over.
PM me if interested and I'll give you his contact and you guys can see if it's a good fit
