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Re: Well, this will help the motorcycle image in Toronto!

You guys call yourselves riders?
Wishing death to those that participated?
BTW only a small percentage were acting like goofs, just like every other group ride

Is this a joke?

Tell me, what action did you take to blacklist these tards from that ride and any future ride? I'll bet none. Why let the 'small percentage' dictate what the ride is remembered for, instead of what it was intended to be.
 
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Is this a joke?

Tell me, what action did you take to blacklist these tards from that ride and any future ride? I'll bet none. Why let the 'small percentage' dictate what the ride is remembered for, instead of what it was intended to be.

I don't go on group rides with random people because of this exact reason, but to wish death to those that were there is a little over the top
 
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I don't go on group rides with random people because of this exact reason, but to wish death to those that were there is a little over the top

People who advocate the reckless operation of motor vehicles in public and defend said actions are more of a threat than internet hyperbole. Sticks and stones...
 
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I don't go on group rides with random people because of this exact reason, but to wish death to those that were there is a little over the top

There are people out there that rage at riders for simply filtering through traffic.

Do you think it's really that far-fetched of an idea that there are those that are willing to plow through stupid riders blocking high-traffic highways? The same riders that get run over, whether injured or killed... Well... The general public won't give a crap after the show they put on.

Because of this stupidity, the image spreads to all Sportbikers as a whole and people will stop caring and looking out for motorcyclists as a whole; not like they care much already.

It's funny that you question people's title of a "rider" as you're obviously using that term in relation to being rebel/criminal/do whatever you want wannabes as portrayed in SOA.
Look anywhere outside the American standard, and you're seen as trash for being that type of "rider".
 
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Well, I certainly wouldn't condone, ANYONE, drive into a crowd of riders, regardless of what the group of riders were doing. As for the comment it was a small percentage of riders who were being reckless. I agree, however, this type of activity wouldn't go on, if those who weren't "participating" didn't jin the ride to begin with and therefore give the few security in numbers, as well as an audience. I would hope that if anyone, hit a rider, in a road rage type incident they are dealt with severely by the courts.

Does anyone here believe, that if there were only say 10 of the hardcore group, they would have acted in the same fashion? Of course not, they rely on other riders showing up and by there sheer numbers allow these fools to block traffic and pull off their "stunts" Which, using the term stunts, brings disrepute to those who do stunt in a proper and safe manner, (IE a secluded and empty parking lot).

I could see the government, bringing in regulations that force the manufacturers to install a fail safe system, which can't be disabled. This system would allow Law Enforcement to remotely disable a bike, similar to what they do with the "bait cars". it would allow the rider, (with their momentum), to get over to the side of a road, but not permit them to continue to operate the bike. How quickly would the "show" have ended, if with the push of a button, all the bikes in that group were disabled at once, from the chopper above. It would also eliminate the need for ANY bike pursuits

Given the draconian measures of s172, I could see the law stating the police could then simply move in and impound all the bikes, You get your bike back when you present yourself to the local station to claim your PON. If you claim you weren't operating the bike then you don't get it back till the operator presents themselves. This would also recover all stolen bikes which were being used. Of course any bikes without plates or insurance also get those charges tacked on.

Now initially, there "may" be one or two who were riding along and get caught up in the pack. But, after this tactic was employed once, I would venture that if your cruising down the highway and you see a group approaching "innocent" riders, would quickly pull to the roadside and let it go by.
 
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I could see the government, bringing in regulations that force the manufacturers to install a fail safe system, which can't be disabled. This system would allow Law Enforcement to remotely disable a bike, similar to what they do with the "bait cars". it would allow the rider, (with their momentum), to get over to the side of a road, but not permit them to continue to operate the bike. How quickly would the "show" have ended, if with the push of a button, all the bikes in that group were disabled at once, from the chopper above. It would also eliminate the need for ANY bike pursuits

Cool idea in theory, but almost impossible in practice. The biggest problem is how would an individual bike with no obvious identifying marks (such as a license plate) be targeted? Secondly, if manufacturers installed such a system, it would likely be part of the ECU which many people replace. Thirdly, it would be a security nightmare. How long before the remotes started showing up on ali for normal people to buy? I just don't see this ever getting off the ground.

I agree that without the pack of "innocent" riders, the morons would have a lot less leeway to do what they did. I am not saying the consequences should be equal, but for anyone that intentionally rode with the pack I have no problem with charges (for starters impeding traffic and stopping on a highway, any individual bike could have filtered through the group and ridden away).
 
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Well, I certainly wouldn't condone, ANYONE, drive into a crowd of riders, regardless of what the group of riders were doing

So... The Range Rover driver in NY incident, Rob referenced above, should have stayed still while they attacked his family?
Him driving off... and over the riders.. was the right thing to do. His only mistake was stopping later... IMO... He should have put it in reverse and kept that truck moving...
 
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You guys call yourselves riders?
Wishing death to those that participated?
BTW only a small percentage were acting like goofs, just like every other group ride

All that stopped on the highway.. were acting like 'goofs'.. and that was probably the most dangerous of all their actions during that ride.
 
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you guys aren't real riders if youre standing up for the cagers. so what if they stopped the highway for 5 minutes big freaking deal don't go on for days crying about it. people stop the highway for dumber reasons I saw a minor fender bender the other day on the 427 from my balcony and both cagers pulled over and instead of getting each others info and carrying on with their day they decide to call 911 and a firetruck and ambulance and police show up for literaly the one guy rolling into the other guys bumper. so why isn't that on the news because that's the main reason of gridlock in our major highways people getting into a silly little fender bender that doesn't even show a scratch on the car and call 911 and block the entire highway for at least 45 minutes. the real question is when is the next ride like rot6. stand up for your community not for the butthurt cagers that cant ride a bike and have to take out their anger on the ones that can. and to the ones that believe that it stpped emergency vehices....LOLLLLL are you freaking retarded if an ambulance or other emergency vehicle wanted to pass they would have had no hassle at all from anyone
 
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What the ****?

Not only are your arguments full of ****ing holes, but your English is worse than mine and I wasn't even born here.

EDIT: Can anyone see a difference between the translated text and his original post? Looks the same to me!
 
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@bigslimjim
because i drive a car as well?

an accident is, well... an accident. it's involuntary in its nature.

this was not an accident. is what voluntary disruption of people's lives. people work. people have to get places. i personally have a baby in the hospital and am on a schedule shift with mama to rotate cause we have also a toddler.
do you think motorcycle woes are more important than my newborn that (at the time of the ride) was on breathing tubes and iv to live? no. and for most people their work, family gatherings, etc are more important than the demonstration that was being done. so being delayed to get to my son because of this? i honestly would be ashamed to be a rider in that group, just makes us look like what they accuse us of, being self centred and careless about other people and being outright dangerous in some cases.
ill do group rides, small scale (max 8 people), non disruptive, tons of twisties a bunch of speed and it won't make the news and won't tarnish motorcyclists' reputation either.

there are other ways to demonstrate than by voluntarily stopping, SEVERAL TIMES on the most busy highways in Canada to do burnouts, or to pop wheelies. makes it look like a circus, not like people wanting to be taken seriously. it's like saying let's do a peaceful protest by shooting our guns in the air, doesnt convey the message. which is why it's hard to buy the message behind the ride.
So i don't think that this ride defines what a "real" rider is.
I commute daily on it, ride from april to november, rain or shine. Have my weekend getaways/touring when i can make time for it. Ride with friends when i can. It's not just "a toy" for me, its my main means of transportation during most 7+ degree weather. To me that's the definition of a real rider, someone who doesn't just ride "for fun" or to "be with people", someone who uses it as a tool as well.

im black doesnt mean i support every single thing BLM does, and i'm originally from quebec, but doesn't mean i want to separate from canada. public misconception of a category applies to all sorts of groups. same goes for rot6.
 
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you guys aren't real riders if youre standing up for the cagers. so what if they stopped the highway for 5 minutes big freaking deal don't go on for days crying about it. people stop the highway for dumber reasons I saw a minor fender bender the other day on the 427 from my balcony and both cagers pulled over and instead of getting each others info and carrying on with their day they decide to call 911 and a firetruck and ambulance and police show up for literaly the one guy rolling into the other guys bumper. so why isn't that on the news because that's the main reason of gridlock in our major highways people getting into a silly little fender bender that doesn't even show a scratch on the car and call 911 and block the entire highway for at least 45 minutes. the real question is when is the next ride like rot6. stand up for your community not for the butthurt cagers that cant ride a bike and have to take out their anger on the ones that can. and to the ones that believe that it stpped emergency vehices....LOLLLLL are you freaking retarded if an ambulance or other emergency vehicle wanted to pass they would have had no hassle at all from anyone

Coming from a person that just started riding and was still breaking in their bike 1 month ago? lol

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?202481-new-from-etobicoke&p=2510817#post2510817

http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforu...om-Etobicoke&p=2510877&viewfull=1#post2510877

Hmm.. Blocking a lane causing traffic due to an accident vs intentionally blocking all lanes of traffic because you want to. Moreover, there is no way the minor fender bender you "witnessed" would have "blocked the whole highway for 45 mins" especially since you even noted they pulled over. Your story suggests, two people got into an accident, pulled over, and you somehow figured that they didn't exchange information (from your balcony), and instead called emergency vehicles to block off the "whole highway" that they pulled off of already. See the problem here?

An easier scenario for you to comprehend would be someone parking right up against your tire to block you in as you're about to leave, just because they want to.
 
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I just started riding? lmfao ok kid. go ride your little 125. if you knew my post I have had a ninja500 '02 I have put over 20k on it before trading it for 2013 cbr250 and now have a brand new triumph but thanks for your input. (removed-RM) and the fender bender ended up blocking 3 out of 4 lanes because fire truck parked at an angle purposely. and thanks to grammar police here im not writing an essay for English class im chatting on a forum
 
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you guys aren't real riders if youre standing up for the cagers. so what if they stopped the highway for 5 minutes big freaking deal don't go on for days crying about it. people stop the highway for dumber reasons I saw a minor fender bender the other day on the 427 from my balcony and both cagers pulled over and instead of getting each others info and carrying on with their day they decide to call 911 and a firetruck and ambulance and police show up for literaly the one guy rolling into the other guys bumper. so why isn't that on the news because that's the main reason of gridlock in our major highways people getting into a silly little fender bender that doesn't even show a scratch on the car and call 911 and block the entire highway for at least 45 minutes. the real question is when is the next ride like rot6. stand up for your community not for the butthurt cagers that cant ride a bike and have to take out their anger on the ones that can. and to the ones that believe that it stpped emergency vehices....LOLLLLL are you freaking retarded if an ambulance or other emergency vehicle wanted to pass they would have had no hassle at all from anyone

And what about regular motorists? What would happen if a non emergency vehicle tried to pass??
 
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