Emergency breaking - How not lock up the rear?

How did you learn to use your front brakes without locking them and or getting tossed over the bars? Same principle different appendage, learn to ease it and modulate it, and not just stamp on it and lock it....practice using it, so when you go to use it you have some experience of how to modulate it. Not like everyone is saying dont ever use it, then if you ever ddi decide to use it you have no idea how to use it properly and you end up just like everyone else that says they cant use a rear break without locking it....lol
I use mine everyday in every kind of riding I do, street, track, stunting....Doesnt matter it has a useful purpose for me in all of them....

If your emergency stopping and the rear comes up, then your using too much front brake, if you added some rear and eased of the front you could shop faster instead of doing a stoppie because you only know how to use the front brakes
 
use the rear brake while performing slow maneuvers ...or when your stuck on the vp or the 401 at 5:00 pm
 
Jayv said:
OP, all the riding schools teach how to brake with both front and rear brake, and also what you should do when the rear wheel locks up.
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Yeah, we covered it in my MSF last year and I can do it fine from slower speeds, but Im looking for tips as to how to do it from a 80/100kph +, I gotta stop now, standpoint. Late rear brake application seems to be the answer if I want to modulate it at all.

I will head to somewhere where I can practice this even if its not useful in some/many situations. Ill get a good feeling for the bike in the process.

Thanks to all for your helpful replies
 
carboncat said:
its not needed. we your front forks are completely compressed, which shoots up the rear of the bike, making it really easy to lock.
we never use it on the track, going 250 plus down to 60, so I see few needs for it on the street.
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This is kinda funny because even though you arent using your rear break on the track your back wheel is doing a ton of braking because we use engine braking heavily. On the road the same can be accomplished with the rear brake if you are not confident with downshifting and just pull in the clutch
 
Snipes20 said:
This is kinda funny because even though you arent using your rear break on the track your back wheel is doing a ton of braking because we use engine braking heavily. On the road the same can be accomplished with the rear brake if you are not confident with downshifting and just pull in the clutch
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ummm... I thought engine braking at the track is a nono...gotta be in the right gear all the time...engine braking = lost time, no?
 
The experts speak, rear brake is equivalent to plutonium

Johnny, how many times has this come up?
 
My personal inexperienced opinion?
You need to hit the rear brake first before the front. This prevents the weight from moving to the front.

The racers here think the rear brake is a waste of time.

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I locked up my rear on the way to my M test. It was raining and traction was not ideal. As long as you keep the bike straight, locking the rear a little is okay.
 
sid_for_speed said:
ummm... I thought engine braking at the track is a nono...gotta be in the right gear all the time...engine braking = lost time, no?
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I removed almost all of my engine braking, so that my sloppy mid corner throttle control doesn't upset the bike at all :) Lots of track guys ask me to take out anywhere between 50% and 70% of the engine braking. On an R6 or R1, especially when geared aggressively, the stock engine braking is absolutely insane. In stock form the bike completely turns the engine off on deceleration (by cutting the fuel injectors), which leans the engine right out so when you go to go back on the gas even just a hair of throttle causes a snap/twitch.
 
starboy869 said:
I use my rears at low speed and in gear. Usually coming up to a stop. However not all the time.
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+1, at my age I ride pretty sedate so less chance of getting into trouble , my biggest challenge is getting the fear out of very sharp turns going downhill only ,I like riding up hills.. I use engine brake but usually a cager on my tail adds to the challenge, but I have the choice to avoid know steep hills if I want.
 
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Elwoodpdowd said:
+1, at my age I ride pretty sedate so less chance of getting into trouble , my biggest challenge is getting the fear out of very sharp turns going downhill only ,I like riding up hills.. I use engine brake but usually a cager on my tail adds to the challenge, but I have the choice to avoid know steep hills if I want.
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Started well, got into trouble in the middle, ended badly. C+ see me after class.
 
Why do they even have rear brakes? Useless and just add weight to the bike. Lol.

It's a science. Check out some track days and get a feel for the real deal. It will help on the street too.


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To each their own, I use my rear brakes, not as heavily as my fronts; but they do save you distance compared if you weren't using them. Practice makes perfect.

in a jam, I'd rather lock the rears than the fronts. You lock the fronts u are almost guarinteed to go down...
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