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Emergency breaking - How not lock up the rear?

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Guys, how is he stopping like that?
All front I assume?

I want to learn to brake like that before entering a corner lol
 
H4x0rz said:
To each their own, I use my rear brakes, not as heavily as my fronts; but they do save you distance compared if you weren't using them. Practice makes perfect.

in a jam, I'd rather lock the rears than the fronts. You lock the fronts u are almost guarinteed to go down...
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Well said, if we survive our early noob mistakes they at least become valuable lessons, bikes are not toys that's for sure.
 
RockerGuy said:
... You need to hit the rear brake first before the front. This prevents the weight from moving to the front ...
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Rossi:
"I always brake very much with the front, road or track. I would say I use 80 percent the front and 20 percent the rear. Really, you only stop the bike with the front brake. You use the rear just a little, to keep the bike stable. The difference between the track and the road is this - on the track you can use the front brake all the way into the corner."

Bradley Smith:
"... and on a MotoGP bike I use it to settle the rear, using it just before the front so the transfer to the front is a little less violent."

-- MotoGP Performance Riding Techniques, Andy Ibbott


IMHO:
Threshold braking has been tested to be optimal with a small degree of slip; you need to get a sense of feel and hearing of that slip.
Because it's dependent on familiarity, it's a diminishing skill; get to a parking lot or empty road often.
Although, when you're freaked out about crashing, your adrenaline dump will probably kill your fine motor skills anyways. :p
... at least the familiarity will make it one less thing to be scared of in that moment.
 
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RockerGuy said:
My personal inexperienced opinion?
You need to hit the rear brake first before the front. This prevents the weight from moving to the front.

The racers here think the rear brake is a waste of time.

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Not all of them, I was being sarcastic.
 
veno78 said:
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Guys, how is he stopping like that?
All front I assume?

I want to learn to brake like that before entering a corner lol
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Race rubber + track surface = awesome grip for braking.

Street tires + public roads = unpredictable grip with less than ideal conditions and a lowside.
 
carboncat said:
its not needed. we your front forks are completely compressed, which shoots up the rear of the bike, making it really easy to lock.
we never use it on the track, going 250 plus down to 60, so I see few needs for it on the street.
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who is we?
 
RockerGuy said:
My personal inexperienced opinion?
You need to hit the rear brake first before the front. This prevents the weight from moving to the front too fast.

The racers here think the rear brake is a waste of time.

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fixed!
 
dextasy said:
who is we?
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... maybe "we" as in the royal plural?

When I was young and foolish I didn't use the rear brake, then I grew up and learned how to ride a motorcycle.
A rear brake will almost always improve your laptimes, IF you know how to use it.
Practice, practice, practice. The only way to learn.
If you trail brake going into a corner you will shift the center of gravity forward, putting more weight on the front wheel, giving you more traction, allowing for a higher corner speed.
 
RockerGuy said:
My personal inexperienced opinion?
You need to hit the rear brake first before the front. This prevents the weight from moving to the front.

The racers here think the rear brake is a waste of time.

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Could you explain the physics of this?
 
Nothing wrong with questions at all,, its the answers from the inexperienced that cause problems.

Making a carte blanche statement such as,, "NEVER USE THE REAR BRAKE!" is misleading and could be dangerous.

The rear brake,, like every other feature on a bike is a tool,, and I think there is some old saying "Right tool for the job??"


There are a bunch of reasons and situations where the use of this particular tool can be particularly effective and keep you out of trouble(or the front end of a buick)

rear brake use is just another tool for your toolbox of riding skills.

Having the right tools/skills and the knowledge/experience to use them just makes you better and more safe than the rider that doesn't

Yes, there are many racers(some that have won world championships) that say they don't use it,, but that doesn't mean they don't know how.
 
Foot control. It takes some practice but you can hammer on the rear and ease up as your coming to a stop.

All the weight of the bike (and you) is being transferred up front when you do an emergency stop. By slowly easing up on the back break as you depress the front harder will not allow the tire to skid.

I found the easiest way to control your foot is to squeeze your knees against the gas tank. It took 4 or 5 runs but I haven't locked up since.

Now I ride a cruiser so its a tad different BUT my own tests were done on the honda 250s that is provided by the humber m1 exit course.

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