No that's not it.
No that's not it.
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Here's two things I noticed:
I've been riding REALLY far back in the saddle recently because it sits you higher on the bike and makes me feel more comfortable. Also my front tire pressure is 28 while my rear is in the 30's. They should ideally both be in the 32's.
I'm going to try getting back to my usual "on the tank" position and see if that curbs it.
Also - because of my wide turn in I instinctively just gave up on the corner. I want to be able to trust the bike and just lean harder but it is so mentally difficult. Any tips?
If your tires are stock, it's 32 and 36 I believe for pressure.
For leaning, here are three suggestions:
Counter-steer with only one hand. This might sound obvious but a lot of time, you'll find yourself using your other hand to make adjustments mid turn. Easiest way to practice this, I've found, is to take your left hand off the bars during right turns. You'll find your turns MUCH smoother once you master this since you aren't fighting with yourself. For left turns I'm having an issue loosening up my right hand because....
You should, if possible, accelerate slightly during turns. This causes your suspensions to even out and not dip forward. Remember that braking and decelerating causes your bike to dip forward. Suspension works best in it's "middle" area so applying smooth acceleration helps with this.
And, lastly, enter the lean position before the turn. Say you come up to a right hand turn. Shove your butt to the right of the seat, stick your knee out, counter steer whatever way you feel comfortable (push left, or pull right) to keep the bike straight. Once it's time to turn, push right. This makes turning incredibly smooth. I've noticed my chicken strips rapidly disappearing (though the last bit is still there) once I applied this.
I'm sure some of you will know where I got this info from.
EDIT: Btw, be very careful when you apply all of this, you might over shoot your turn...I did my first time lol
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Who ever said that you are supposed to ride close to the tank?
A 250 will have enough power with a light rider to lift the front just enough to get a wobble when you put the wheel back on the ground twisted
There are a couple of people that really know me, and I always told them "people talk soooo muchhhhh ****"
A 250 will have enough power with a light rider to lift the front just enough to get a wobble when you put the wheel back on the ground twisted
There are a couple of people that really know me, and I always told them "people talk soooo muchhhhh ****"
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油井緋色;1994439 said:
Ah yes KC from TWOT... I have watched that **** religiously and know where you're coming from. I'm having a tough time keeping my tyres up to pressure lately. Will try filling them up again tomorrow and see if that makes any difference. Thanks.
250 your tire pressure based on Owner manual is 28/32.
Wheel of the ground? Possible specially if you dump your ass far back ... hell even try putting a 2up n that thing will wheelie in a heartbeat ... no need to dump the clutch when all your weight is on the back, that bike is light.
Wobble, normal when you land the wheel wrong so maybe you got scared and slightly shifted the bar... happens.
Wide corner, part of your confidence got beaten by the wheel/wobble ... slow down n ride a bit more careful.. you may be getting too confident and the bike gave you a signal to step back and resharpen your skills. I've had my moments on wobbles due to bumps n bad roads, just gotta slow down a bit and bring the ego down a bit.
Take her to a parking lot and do some 8s n circles, work your skills back into shape, is only the start of the season, don't make it a short one.
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Wheel of the ground? Possible specially if you dump your ass far back ... hell even try putting a 2up n that thing will wheelie in a heartbeat ... no need to dump the clutch when all your weight is on the back, that bike is light.
Wobble, normal when you land the wheel wrong so maybe you got scared and slightly shifted the bar... happens.
Wide corner, part of your confidence got beaten by the wheel/wobble ... slow down n ride a bit more careful.. you may be getting too confident and the bike gave you a signal to step back and resharpen your skills. I've had my moments on wobbles due to bumps n bad roads, just gotta slow down a bit and bring the ego down a bit.
Take her to a parking lot and do some 8s n circles, work your skills back into shape, is only the start of the season, don't make it a short one.
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Tips?
are you suposed to be far from the tank or close to it?
im confused by your comment.
Green Machine
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It is definitely possible to wheelie on a ninja 250 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xl8RPFu4Gk over 5 million views
1 tip
Use your knees on the tank and your core to take pressure of your arms and in consequence your handle bars
Far enough from the tank so you can use use your knees against it - Just making sure my comments are clear
PM if you want more info, don't want to start an argument with people which opinions are wrong
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PLau
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For seat positioning, refer to this thread. http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?170833-Motorcycle-seating-positions
Green Machine
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According to the MTC you are supposed to grip the tank with your knees at all times.
They say that so you keep your knees/legs closed and the weight centered with the bike not necessarily hold it like if your life depends on it. A relax sitting is commonly what best suits you and the bike.
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Dude thanks. Good advice.
The point of using your legs to grip the tank is to keep your weight off of the bars. Using your core (abdominal and lower back) to stabilize your upper body ultimately allows you to keep from putting your upper body weight on your arms, wrists, and subsequently, handlebars, ensuring your suspension and tire does what they are supposed to do without negative input.
Your suspension performs best when left to its own devices.
If you're gonna ride it like you stole it then why not?
Ya like already mentioned go to a parking lot and practice.
Also remember that you can always accelerate when too slow in a corner, the opposite however is a little more difficult to do. The moment you chop the throttle or hit the brakes the front end goes down, the bike wants to stand up and now that corner you didn't think you were gonna make, you're not making for sure.
Practice, practice, practice.
Still wanna get that 600?
Fast forward to 1:40
[video=youtube;aaMcWiwZhw0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaMcWiwZhw0[/video]
When your ambitions outrun your skill level this is what happens...
That corner could have been made at 4 times his speed without trying, but without the know how and experience this poor soul was doomed from the get go.
[video=youtube;aaMcWiwZhw0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaMcWiwZhw0[/video]
When your ambitions outrun your skill level this is what happens...
That corner could have been made at 4 times his speed without trying, but without the know how and experience this poor soul was doomed from the get go.
Oh that grass looks comfy, lets go have a closer look!
Aha that was me at 16 on an MX bike first time around on my first ever bike....now many many years on I always remember the day I got cocky, took a corner too hot and nearly ended up through the window of a carpet store. That was on abike way less powerful than the one in the vid.
he got the jitters and ended up fixating and where his bike was going instead of looking where he needs to go lol
p.s. @ OP i used to ride a ninja 250 as well, i went over a huge bump at a railway crossing, and my front wheel was wobbling violently for about a split second. it happens when your front wheel hits the ground crooked, a steering damper will help reduce the effects of a ''tank slapper''.
on a side note u think going straight w/ a tank slapper is scary? wait till u get one during a corner =p haha
p.s. @ OP i used to ride a ninja 250 as well, i went over a huge bump at a railway crossing, and my front wheel was wobbling violently for about a split second. it happens when your front wheel hits the ground crooked, a steering damper will help reduce the effects of a ''tank slapper''.
on a side note u think going straight w/ a tank slapper is scary? wait till u get one during a corner =p haha
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