LOL, I guess I'm not the only one that knows this.
Gasoline breaks down at higher temps and UV light. But Oh Well, whatever works for others
Word of warning for adding Fuel Stabilizer.
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LOL, I guess I'm not the only one that knows this.
Gasoline breaks down at higher temps and UV light. But Oh Well, whatever works for others
+1!
Tovarish
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Used red stabil last year and shell 91 without issue (except i forgot how my choke works and flooded the engine) But i am thinking of using the seafoam and 91 this year. Anyone else use the seamfoam as their fuel conditioner?
Yup, using seafoam for years, carbs and fi, I tend to overuse at a little but it's all good so far.
The solubility of water in both air and gasoline decreases with a decrease in temperature. When talking about phase separation of E10 gas specifically, the amount of water needed for phase separation to occur increases with the temperature. So when temps drop in winter, the % water your gas can tolerate before it begins to separate actually decreases along with the temperature. This separation is a possible precursor to "gumming up" your carbs and injectors but for those who do not have the benefit of sensors to automatically adjust for AF ratio the separation can also cause an undesirable leaner combustion mixture. Keep in mind that unless you're storing your bike in controlled temps, the fluctuation in temperatures is part of the problem.
What's wrong with 93? It's the amount of ethanol in gas, not the octane rating.
When setting up a nitrous kit for a friend in the US we couldn't find ANY fuel that didn't have 10% ethanol in it down there! It seems every grade, every octane had ethanol in it! We eventually found a Shell with 91 and we hoped that even in the USA, it didn't contain ethanol
My only solution for ya, track day on Thursday, burn all that crappy yank fuel off!
-Jamie M.
Not even sure how much ethanol they add in the states into 93
Also +1 - last year I rode until Dec 14. Just let the bike sit for the next month or so. If you're really uncomfortable with it just sitting, go start it up and run it for a few minutes every week or two.
Tovarish
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I believe these "start it up and run it for a few mins" do more damage than good.
Engine and other components never get to proper operating temperature, battery will not charge, etc... much easier to put in stabil of your choice.
For a month - just fill it up and leave it. Start it when ready to go for a spin.
Engine and other components never get to proper operating temperature, battery will not charge, etc... much easier to put in stabil of your choice.
For a month - just fill it up and leave it. Start it when ready to go for a spin.
ipitythefoo
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If I do want to start it once in a while, do you think I can reach operating temperature by just letting the bike run idle (or even give it some revs)?
Tovarish
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You sure can heat it up - but prolonged idling is different from a good run down the highway which will heat everything up, purge moisture out of oil and engine.
I suppose once in a while is fine, I just don't understand it when people refer to this - starting once a week - as a routine for bikes in storage.
I suppose once in a while is fine, I just don't understand it when people refer to this - starting once a week - as a routine for bikes in storage.
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If you're still riding why are you putting fuel stabilizer?
GSXMAER
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Yeah, cause we need fuel line antifreeze and all that ethanol really helps things too
-Jamie M.
2stroker
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It may be my last tank for the season, you can still ride with stabilizer in your bike, I know you can with a 2 stroke anyways, I guess you can with a 4 stroke too. Also this time of year the nights get cold so may be condensation(being extra safe) but that's just me. My buddy with his TZR250 uses stabilizer all year round, he uses pre-mix, I got the oil injection system. I don't put too many kms on it either.
Speaking of Seafoam the rep in this article suggests you use it in every tank that has any ethanol in it, whether the article is true or not I'll stay on the safe side and use no ethanol. I did not know that about Seafoam sounds like good stuff.http://www.randakks.com/TechTip56.htm
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At the bottom of the article it says the guy won't use stabilizer in old tanks. So many theories.
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kruzuki
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Another issue with running the bike once in a while over the winter is that you never really get it up to operating temps and oil pressure may not build enough at idle only.
Also, your exhaust system may not heat up enough and upon shut down you get condensation inside the pipes, which you can't see, until they corrode from the inside out.
Stabilize the fuel (run stabilized fule through the carbs/injectors, take care of the battery and leave it alone!
Also, your exhaust system may not heat up enough and upon shut down you get condensation inside the pipes, which you can't see, until they corrode from the inside out.
Stabilize the fuel (run stabilized fule through the carbs/injectors, take care of the battery and leave it alone!
