If the statements made at the time by him and the witnesses are true he was being beaten, just as the cop in this case with the exception of it was not two on one.
Cop crashes bike into 4 year old girl then shoots and kills her father
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If the statements made at the time by him and the witnesses are true he was being beaten, just as the cop in this case with the exception of it was not two on one.
From the RCMP site
Non-restricted firearmsNon-restricted firearms must be unloaded during transportation.
So yea with a trigger lock i would assume but it does not say that does not mention a case either. Wonder if that means its legal to walk down a busy street with one as long as its not loaded.
Griffin
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OpenGambit;1868564And as to your final comment said:
I've known several Crowns. I get your point.
In your scenario it depends:
Did I have a reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm? You come at me with a knife of any sort and my answer is "yes" and I'd be happy to present that to the jury.
Did I believe on reasonable grounds that using a machine gun was necessary to preserve myself? Depends. I'm big and know how to fight. If you're small and obviously inept, I may give you the benefit of the doubt and just kick you in the head a few times. On the other hand, if you look mean or seem to know how to handle a knife, I'm opening fire. Happy to go to the jury with that, too.
But, I'd not use more than 3 - 6 rounds. I'm frugal. Plus, to put 30 rounds into you accurately would take far too long. But, if I was small, frightened of you and had poor firearm handling skills, yeah firing 30 rounds would be about right although not likely I'd hit you with more than 1 or 2.
Griffin
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Potentially legal. It does open you to other non firearms specific charges under the Criminal Code though, a la weapons dangerous and such. Like carrying a sword is not specifically illegal so long as its not concealed.
OpenGambit
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That is actually what it means, but I woudln't do it in DT toronto and expect to be left alone.
OpenGambit
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You fail to understand that just because Zimmerman is being beaten doesn't mean he has a valid self defence claim, as there is plenty of evidence suggesting he was the provokator.
OpenGambit
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I hear what you are saying, but I actually think there is just one.
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Right although clearly its not a reasonable thing to do
OpenGambit
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Yes that is filed under the "technicaly legal, not recommended" category of things to do.
I would very much like to see this evidence. I do not believe that "Following" someone is Provoking. In my experiance the only people I have followed that got upset where doing something they should not be doing. the rest had no problem.
Also Carrying a gun is not provoking as The kid did not know he had a gun either. (Or maybe he would have kept walking.)
OpenGambit
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You are right, Zimmerman was just sitting in his car with a gun as the self appointed sheriff of the gated community and was just going up to offer him a piece of candy and sell him girl scout cookies when he was viciously attacked by a skittles and ice tea carrying black kid.
the best part is you are serious. lol
Zimmerman is just another version of this guy:
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?148099-Heartless-man-remains-out-on-bail
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Holy **** just read that article...
What the ****...and how did this thread get derailed to that lol did not read the whole thread.
So no evidance then?
Or
1. Having a permit and carring a weapon is a crime (This is Not Canada)
2. Following someone is a crime (I am sure his intent was to follow and shoot him when no one was looking)
3. Defending yourself is a crime as well (Been discussed to death in this thread)
I asked what Evidence you speek of that indicates Zimmerman is guilty of Murder? (Based on the Laws in Florida) Not what he did VS what he should have done or not done.
I dont know why you expect Gambit to have access to the prosecutions case
OpenGambit
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When even his own defence attorneys admit that "stand your ground" didn't apply, because of the factors that I stated, you really are just being delusional.
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This is Florida, Not Canada
Here is the trascript from the frist 911 call, please tell me what he did that was illegal?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html
Here is the trascript from the frist 911 call, please tell me what he did that was illegal?
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcript-zimmerman.html
Actually I dont. He claimed to know more than others about the case in question, also claims that Zimmerman should be charged with murder, But if he was on the ground being beaten and did it to defend himself that is really no different than the cop in the case that this thread is about. Feared for his life, was legally carring a gun and used it. I disagree that the murder charge is the right charge. (There are other charges that would have better fit the crime and might be able to get a good conviction on. Intent is important and nothing shows he had an intent to kill the kid, no premeditation to kill the kid either. The Fact that he called 911 shows this as well.
OpenGambit
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yeah his defense attorneys are in Florida.... not Canada.
RandomHero
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The same ones he fired? Is that case still going on?
