Turn down the volume on your sportbike exhaust - Brampton - Stop ruing a good thing

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Baggsy said:
It doesn't. That's the whole point of coming up with an equitable solution before it happens.

I'm thinking that in the not to distant future, many people will be running back to the manufacturers to re-buy stock exhausts, once the aftermarket ones have been permanently banned. After that enforcement will just consist of looking at the exhaust to see if it is original or not, and the fines will be higher.
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FYI, there is a solution already and that why limit the DB from the factory, all aftermarket exhausts not say for street use and then finally thats why a cop can give you a ticket for excessive noise.

What more do you what a ban?
 
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slowbird said:
There's an in-between spot between the "lugging" and the High rev howling. It's not that difficult.
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Actually, it is that difficult.... 9-10k rpms is the powerband of the bike, the range in which it is meant to be driven... FFS, get that through your head..... These bikes red line at 14-15k, even with a factory exhaust they are going to be loud..
Soooooooo, riding around at that rpm range is the normal operating range of the bike, and hence, not douchebagish at alllllll.....
Although, I doubt you will understand that...



slowbird said:
"Acceptable" to you maybe....but incosiderate to others. Bikes are meant to do many things....not all are "acceptable" on the road.
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Of course not things are acceptable on the road, don't cloud the issue, our put words in my mouth. So it's inconsiderate to others, does that mean it should be stopped? There are lots of things done everyday that are inconsiderate to others, but it's still done... Perhaps you should pick your battles....



slowbird said:
No. You still haven't given me a reason for being up that high in the revs when driving around on the street. ...or atleast a reason that makes it neccesary.
Again....it may not be unacceptable to you.
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Riding a motorcycle capable of 200 mph isn't necessary, but it still happens right? I have given you a perfectly acceptable reason, you just don't get it.... Revving the bike that high is not misusing the bike at alllllll, bouncing it off the rev limiter is... I am simply explaining away your example....



slowbird said:
Cause in my scenario, the Ferrari isn't being loud, and isn't keeping the car in a low gear. The ferrari is being curteous and careful.
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Ok, I get it... Ferrari drivers are more courteous and careful than bike riders.... Ummm hmmmm. Give your head a shake....

Soooooooo, you have never ever, ever, ever ridden your bike at high revs eh?
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone......
 
slowbird said:
No need to apologize...from the sound of it there's a big enough Knob riding the bike.
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Ohhh, don't get your panties in a bunch. It's interesting that you are perhaps the only person on the planet who rides their motorcycle and drives their car perfectly...
 
First off, OP if you're a motorcycle rider yourself, then you can potentially be a nuisance to another person who doesn't ride a bike and in comparison your bike is "Too Loud". So you yourself can be part of the problem.

There is a difference between reving the hell out of a bike (any bike ss or cruiser) while its in park or your driveway at 4am and just riding a bike with an aftermarket exhaust. We all should know that aftermarket and most modified exhausts are technically illegal anyway and can result in a ticket if a cop is having a bad day. (solution for noise control)

My bike exhaust is stock but I got a ticket on richmond street downtown for excessive noise because I was mouthing off to a cop. There are already is a solution for this. What are you proposing, banning bikes all together because something thinks its loud? The definition of loud depends on the party who is listening and complaining.

As I said, my bike is stock and beside most other sportbikes and cruisers I can't hear my bike at all, but beside a Toyota Corolla while idling the driver may say my bike is too loud compared to his car.
 
SlowNLow said:
Actually, it is that difficult.... 9-10k rpms is the powerband of the bike, the range in which it is meant to be driven... FFS, get that through your head..... These bikes red line at 14-15k, even with a factory exhaust they are going to be loud..
Soooooooo, riding around at that rpm range is the normal operating range of the bike, and hence, not douchebagish at alllllll.....
Although, I doubt you will understand that...
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Uh, 9-10K on one of those bikes is not what they are meant to be ridden at on the street. If they have a factory exhaust that has not been gutted then they have pass a standard for noise, that the aftermarket exhausts have not. So if you do it on the street then it is "douchebagish".
 
Baggsy said:
Uh, 9-10K on one of those bikes is not what they are meant to be ridden at on the street. If they have a factory exhaust that has not been gutted then they have pass a standard for noise, that the aftermarket exhausts have not. So if you do it on the street then it is "douchebagish".
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Uhhh, yeah they are.... Perhaps not on your crusier, but a ss can be driven in that rpm range alllllll day long...
Douchebagish is subjective, you think it is, I know it's not... No problem....
Might I suggest you take up a quieter hobby?
 
But you don't need to push peak horsepower, to get around on a city street. You aren't winning the Sandalwood 200. 5K isn't lugging it and 7K is plenty, especially on a Litre bike.
 
SlowNLow said:
Uhhh, yeah they are.... Perhaps not on your crusier, but a ss can be driven in that rpm range alllllll day long...Douchebagish is subjective, you think it is, I know it's not... No problem....Might I suggest you take up a quieter hobby?
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I don't have a cruiser any more, the one I did have didn't need to be at 10,000 rpm to be north of 172, but how fast are these supersports going at 10,000 rpm in second or third gear.
 
the27thelement said:
Hey OP. 2 words for you............

"Harley pipes"!

end rant
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As much as I agree with OP's general statement that a portion of aftermarket exhaust for sportbikes are loud, I agree more with the quoted statement above.
A sportbike pipe is loud in close quarters. Half a kilometer tops.
Some Harleys with aftermarket pipes can be heard for miles on end once it passes you, and it's a very low, bone-rattling sound.

My ex lives close to Main/Vodden (for those who don't know, that's in brampton). I remember standing in the front yard one day and hearing a bike go north on main.
I couldnt see the bike because I was a street over but it was as loud as if I were standing beside it.
I was in awe for over a minute as I stood there and listened to it until it hit a red light at Bovaird (i assume, gauging by time/average speed on main and also having driven that way 345489534 times).

There could be 20,000 Harleys in GTA, but it only takes 1% of them who are retards (with these stupid straight-pipes) to make their image bad.
It's the same with sportbikes. Stock exhausts aren't loud at all. It's the smaller percentage of cat-deleting-baffle-removing dummies that ruin the sportbike image.

My slip-on has been called "loud" by my neighbor.
That's because she has a newborn and the baby's room is right next to my driveway, so she just wants to complain and have me pay for a fence (she's been trying to get me to pay for a fence for over 3 years now. If she wants a fence, she can pay for it herself).
I've had 3 people ride my bike and although it's "loud" when you're next to it, once they drive off and are over 100m away, you can barely hear it.

I'm sure you're only hearing a small percentage of bikes that actually travel on that road per day.
You only hear the loud ones, since the quiet ones go by unnoticed.
 
SlowNLow said:
Actually, it is that difficult.... 9-10k rpms is the powerband of the bike, the range in which it is meant to be driven... FFS, get that through your head....
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This made me lol.

You're saying my 88 Mustang 5.0 that made 225hp @ 4200rpm should be driven around town at 3.5-4k rpm because that's the powerband?
How 'bout no.
Getting to speed of traffic you want to be near or in the powerband, because you want to merge and then follow the pace of traffic.
Once at that point, you don't need to be in the powerband. You just need to coast along with everyone else, so you go up a gear and lower the rpms.
In 5th @ 1800rpm my stang did about 110kmh. According to the quoted message I should've been in 3rd on the highway so that I could hang around 4k and burn my tank of gas faster than lighting it on fire would.

I agree that bikes can be near redline alllll day long, but that's not the way it's "meant" to be driven for street use. For track, yes, but that's for a different discussion.
 
jeero said:
This made me lol.

You're saying my 88 Mustang 5.0 that made 225hp @ 4200rpm should be driven around town at 3.5-4k rpm because that's the powerband?
How 'bout no.
Getting to speed of traffic you want to be near or in the powerband, because you want to merge and then follow the pace of traffic.
Once at that point, you don't need to be in the powerband. You just need to coast along with everyone else, so you go up a gear and lower the rpms.
In 5th @ 1800rpm my stang did about 110kmh. According to the quoted message I should've been in 3rd on the highway so that I could hang around 4k and burn my tank of gas faster than lighting it on fire would.

I agree that bikes can be near redline alllll day long, but that's not the way it's "meant" to be driven for street use. For track, yes, but that's for a different discussion.
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Now, now, don't try to use logic or common sense on this forum.

Slow n' Low has no need for any gears other than first and second cause he/she keeps the bike in the "powerband" all the time. On his/her listed bikes, that will put you well past HTA 172 range for any highway in Ontario in second gear. I suppose he/she rides in first unless on the highway and doesn't mind the jittery, twitchy throttle feel that induces.
 
I had a salesman tell me that my first standard Integra GSR had a high revving engine that shouldn't be shifted at under 6,000 rpm.

That led to me having the infamy of being the first person in North America to destroy one of the titanium rods.

Fortunately, the Acura mechanic noticed a funny noise as I was leaving during my final warranty servicing and called me back.

The rod was replaced and sent to Japan for analysis. I was warned to stop driving like that by the mechanic, especially when first starting out and the oil isn't circulated.

Anyone know off hand how fast those bikes will go in first or second at 10,000 rpm - SlowNLow has suddenly become silent since I asked the question?
 
Baggsy said:
I had a salesman tell me that my first standard Integra GSR had a high revving engine that shouldn't be shifted at under 6,000 rpm.

That led to me having the infamy of being the first person in North America to destroy one of the titanium rods.

Fortunately, the Acura mechanic noticed a funny noise as I was leaving during my final warranty servicing and called me back.

The rod was replaced and sent to Japan for analysis. I was warned to stop driving like that by the mechanic, especially when first starting out and the oil isn't circulated.

Anyone know off hand how fast those bikes will go in first or second at 10,000 rpm - SlowNLow has suddenly become silent since I asked the question?
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Sorry to burst your bubble but gsr rods were not made of titanium and i doubt you were the first one to ever break a rod..... in summer/fall of 92 we blew up a buddies gsr with nitrous and there were many others before us that broke motors..... anyways back on topic... :)

LOUD EXHAUST = MOARRR POWER!!!! :p
 
Baggsy said:
I had a salesman tell me that my first standard Integra GSR had a high revving engine that shouldn't be shifted at under 6,000 rpm.

That led to me having the infamy of being the first person in North America to destroy one of the titanium rods.

Fortunately, the Acura mechanic noticed a funny noise as I was leaving during my final warranty servicing and called me back.

The rod was replaced and sent to Japan for analysis. I was warned to stop driving like that by the mechanic, especially when first starting out and the oil isn't circulated.

Anyone know off hand how fast those bikes will go in first or second at 10,000 rpm - SlowNLow has suddenly become silent since I asked the question?
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Don't know about more recent bikes, not having had the need to test them out like that, but my old '95 GPz1100 would do something like 120, in second, and turned roughly 5500 rpm in top gear, at 160 Kmh. Closed circuit only, of course.
 
Rob MacLennan said:
Don't know about more recent bikes, not having had the need to test them out like that, but my old '95 GPz1100 would do something like 120, in second, and turned roughly 5500 rpm in top gear, at 160 Kmh. Closed circuit only, of course.
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S1000RR:


At redline (14,200 rpm)
(someone else will need to convert, if necessary)
1st 90 MPH
2nd 112MPH
3rd 134 MPH
4th 153 MPH
5th 169 MPH
6th 185 MPH

FWIW I am usually in 3rd at 80 kph turning about 5-6k rpm. 2nd I use for 50-60 turning the same revs. I don't tend to bring the revs up unless I'm accelerating hard or taking corners fairly agressively.

Also, the engine is certainly not lugging at anything over about 2.5 or 3 k rpm.

Edited to add redline info.
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