Turn down the volume on your sportbike exhaust - Brampton - Stop ruing a good thing

I’ll start this post off with a fact which I feel is simple, accurate and the truth. If you do something which offends the majority of people you are looking to have the offensive thing restricted or removed. If you’ve heard about such things being restricted elsewhere you should be seeing the writing on the wall.


I’m talking about sport bike exhaust. (And forgive me if this gets “preachy”).


I like motorcycles so I won’t be going to the police or picking up the torch against them. I live between the 410 and #10 in Brampton along but not close Sandalwood and have to tell you it is only a matter of time before opposition gets the ear of the local do good Politician.


I’m not really sure how the owners of these super loud machines put up with noise, I’m sure it’s cool but after a half hour of driving – come on.


At my house in the early hours of the morning I’m left wondering if any of these bike owners have the conceptual ability to understand how needlessly loud their machines are and how far the noise produced by their machines travels in the areas they drive near. An intelligent person understands the world they live in and the effect they have in it.


Maybe if I put it another way… Part of what makes sport bikes so good is there power and speed… None of the do goodies like you to do all those bad things you do with your sport bikes and no matter what you think your insurance costs reflect the many bad things done by your sport biking peers (you know who you are).

I won’t even mention the want to be’s with the fold-up license plates I’ve seen around. UH!


Please stop ruining a good thing. If your bikes new megaphone exhaust pipe sounds like an F1 car – it’s too loud.

please dial 9-whaa-whaa and get a whaaaambulance
 
Of course not....cause the sport bike riders who are rushing here to defend the loud revving Sport Bikes are the ones who themselves ride around in low gear and high revs...making them too immature to leave the blame o nthemselves, let alone shift to a higher gear.

Really? I'm defending them, but I don't ride around in low gear and high revs..
To put things in perspective, I could ride around alllllll day in second gear at 9k rpms and still be riding my bike the way it was meant to be ridden, i.e., a normal fashion...

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Then you should be well aware, by now, that the nature of the aircraft noise in Brampton is something that you can get used to. You can even get used to it if you live along Derry Road and Mavis Road, in Mississauga, which is a posted flight zone area. The nature of noise, from circling motorcycles, is much different.

But then again, I'm finding that many people in this city are far from courteous. Far from it being the sportbike riders at 3:00am, my most serious issues are the neighbours on one side, who pound up and down the stairs at 6:00am on weekends, and the 16 year old Australopithecus throwback who leaves homemade crack pipes in my yard on the other. By comparison the sportbikers, doing laps, are a mere annoyance.
 
Then you should be well aware, by now, that the nature of the aircraft noise in Brampton is something that you can get used to. You can even get used to it if you live along Derry Road and Mavis Road, in Mississauga, which is a posted flight zone area. The nature of noise, from circling motorcycles, is much different.

But then again, I'm finding that many people in this city are far from courteous. Far from it being the sportbike riders at 3:00am, my most serious issues are the neighbours on one side, who pound up and down the stairs at 6:00am on weekends, and the 16 year old Australopithecus throwback who leaves homemade crack pipes in my yard on the other. By comparison the sportbikers, doing laps, are a mere annoyance.

While I do agree with you to some extent... You become habituated to the airplanes after exposure to them, just like you would become habituated to the sound of ss.... I really don't think out has much to do with the nature of the sound as it does with the amount of exposure.... That said, I live near bovaird, which has become a regular drag strip... I can hear the bikes, and cars ripping up and down there alllllll day long.. IF, I am actually paying attention to it....

As for the neighbours... I feel for ya on that one....


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I’ll start this post off with a fact which I feel is simple, accurate and the truth. If you do something which offends the majority of people you are looking to have the offensive thing restricted or removed. If you’ve heard about such things being restricted elsewhere you should be seeing the writing on the wall.


I’m talking about sport bike exhaust. (And forgive me if this gets “preachy”).


I like motorcycles so I won’t be going to the police or picking up the torch against them. I live between the 410 and #10 in Brampton along but not close Sandalwood and have to tell you it is only a matter of time before opposition gets the ear of the local do good Politician.


I’m not really sure how the owners of these super loud machines put up with noise, I’m sure it’s cool but after a half hour of driving – come on.


At my house in the early hours of the morning I’m left wondering if any of these bike owners have the conceptual ability to understand how needlessly loud their machines are and how far the noise produced by their machines travels in the areas they drive near. An intelligent person understands the world they live in and the effect they have in it.


Maybe if I put it another way… Part of what makes sport bikes so good is there power and speed… None of the do goodies like you to do all those bad things you do with your sport bikes and no matter what you think your insurance costs reflect the many bad things done by your sport biking peers (you know who you are).

I won’t even mention the want to be’s with the fold-up license plates I’ve seen around. UH!


Please stop ruining a good thing. If your bikes new megaphone exhaust pipe sounds like an F1 car – it’s too loud.

Fully agree with you ...

I live by the GARDNER (Harbourfront) and I hear these inconsiderate riders revving the pistons out of their SS bikes.. That's before they pull wheelies infront of the cagers.. Almost makes you embarrassed tell your neighbors that you're a motorcyclist.

Here is the real reason for loud pipes..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-ytACeVM0
 
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While I do agree with you to some extent... You become habituated to the airplanes after exposure to them, just like you would become habituated to the sound of ss.... I really don't think out has much to do with the nature of the sound as it does with the amount of exposure.... That said, I live near bovaird, which has become a regular drag strip... I can hear the bikes, and cars ripping up and down there alllllll day long.. IF, I am actually paying attention to it....

As for the neighbours... I feel for ya on that one....

People around Cayuga became habituated to the drag strip, but not to the road course. Similar issue.

I'll take the sympathy because, even though he trashed a vacant unit, Australopithecus wasn't put out by the landlords.
 
People around Cayuga became habituated to the drag strip, but not to the road course. Similar issue.

I'll take the sympathy because, even though he trashed a vacant unit, Australopithecus wasn't put out by the landlords.

Funny enough, I was out doing some work in the garage last night, around 9pm... Running off some new pegs on the lathe... Landlords nutbag wife comes down screaming and yelling about all the noise.... Ummm, no noise whatsoever..... This morning at 8am, he kid was up doing construction upstairs and she was, as usual, yelling her friggin head off..... no consideration for my trying to sleep... and this is a regular occurrence, so yeah, I feel for ya.
 
Well, the OP has 14 posts and no replies to this thread.
Isn't it moot at this point?
 
I live the exact area right off sandlewood like the op..........its not that bad. I've been here for over 11 years. Most of the exhausts you hear are from souped up tuner cars. I often mistake them for motorcycles. They used to race a lot up kennedy and hwy 10.

Get over it. The cruisers with straight pipes are much more of a nusiance around here.
 
That's the most exasperating part of the issue. People just absolutely, positively refuse to believe that they are part of the problem.

It must be X or Y or Z, but it couldn't be sport bikes oh no, aftermarket exhausts on sport bikes just couldn't disturb the neighbors.

Come on, get over it. Your bikes are disturbing people. Time to deal with the problem, and come up with an equitable solution, before an inequitable one is forced upon you.
 
I think that you've both misread and mis-characterized my comments, to which you responded. I made no comment indicating that I think most riders are nuisances. Quite the opposite, actually, if you take the time to re-read my post. The perception may be that we're all nuisances, which would be incorrect, but it is the perception that matters in such cases.

Of course their motivations are selfish. NIMBY, by definition, is selfish. That doesn't mean such people aren't entitled to having a reasonably quiet life on their rural, residential roads either. In such cases, as I indicated, the few ruin things for the many. A few selfish people, riders, behave in a stupid manner and have us all painted with a broad brush. Again, as I said, like it or not you're lumped into a larger group by those who are being effected. That isn't turbodish's doing; it's simple human nature. Unless you've got a banner on your bike that states "I'M NOT ONE OF THEM!", you'll be considered 'part of the collective.' Free will is immaterial, because you're not able to voluntarily remove yourself. As a result you must act to alter the behaviour of others, who also possess free will, in order to alter perception of non-riders.

As to the financial issue, it's up for grabs. How many people don't go to an area, because they're intimidated (rightly or wrongly) by the presence of motorcyclists? Would they return if the riders, who you must admit have a very limited input into the local economy, left? It might well be a net benefit, for local businesses.

Well, I did re-read your post and at no point did I see the nuisance comment referred to as a "perception". If that's what you meant then I'll leave that part alone.

We can go round and round regarding the collective thing and whether or not I am lumped into a group by default. I didn't buy a motorcycle to be part of a scene, group or any other reason other than I love motorcycles. My reasons were selfish and my own. As far as altering the behaviour of others, I find the thought as distasteful as the idea that others would act to alter my behaviour.

And truly? My original post was really aimed at a frequent poster whose ideology is far removed from my own. My original comments were really meant for him. I'm sure he would appreciate someone coming to his defense once in while as there are no statistics that I know of to support any of this. One side say's "Bikes are too loud! Let's be rid of them all!!". Some on the other side see it differently. There is room for both arguments as long as the entire motorcycling community aren't lumped together and perceived merely as a nuisance. I simply see the Caledon reaction as part of a growing trend. And yes it has to do with rights and free will and many other things. Far to complicated to discuss here though. It also has little to do with loud exhausts.
 
If you give people the power to ban something because they find it annoying, where does it end?

It doesn't. That's the whole point of coming up with an equitable solution before it happens.

I'm thinking that in the not to distant future, many people will be running back to the manufacturers to re-buy stock exhausts, once the aftermarket ones have been permanently banned. After that enforcement will just consist of looking at the exhaust to see if it is original or not, and the fines will be higher.
 
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but I don't ride around in low gear and high revs..

That's great. I apologize to you. Kudos.

To put things in perspective, I could ride around alllllll day in second gear at 9k rpms and still be riding my bike the way it was meant to be ridden, i.e., a normal fashion...

It doesn't matter if that is how your bike is meant to be ridden. If someone needs to drive their high performance veh in a Loud fashion then take it to the track. I have seen plenty Ferraris driving around that I'm just hoping to hear the sweet sound of it at WOT but they almost never do (and for good reason)
...but then some D-Bag in an R6 cruises by at 10,000rpm in low gear....why? (beacuse it redlines at 15k) There's no need to be up that high!!! Shift!
SHIFT THE BIKE! SHIFT IT!
 
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That's great. I apologize to you. Kudos.



It doesn't matter if that is how your bike is meant to be ridden. If someone needs to drive their high performance veh in a Loud fashion then take it to the track. I have seen plenty Ferraris driving around that I'm just hoping to hear the sweet sound of it at WOT but they almost never do (and for good reason)
...but then some D-Bag in an R6 cruises by at 10,000rpm in low gear....why? (beacuse it redlines at 15k) There's no need to be up that high!!! Shift!
SHIFT THE BIKE! SHIFT IT!

It might interest you to know that riding your bike around in a high gear at low rpms, lugging, is BAD for your bike... Riding around at 10k rpms is perfectly acceptable, because, as I said, that's what the bikes are meant to do.... So, yes, there is a reason to be up that high.... I am not quite sure what part of that you are not getting....
Just because you are driving/riding a high performance vehicle in a loud fashion does not mean you are driving/riding it in an unacceptable manner....
Why is it that the person on the R6 is a *********, but the person in the Ferrari is not?


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It might interest you to know that riding your bike around in a high gear at low rpms, lugging, is BAD for your bike...

There's an in-between spot between the "lugging" and the High rev howling. It's not that difficult.

Riding around at 10k rpms is perfectly acceptable, because, as I said, that's what the bikes are meant to do....

"Acceptable" to you maybe....but incosiderate to others. Bikes are meant to do many things....not all are "acceptable" on the road.

So, yes, there is a reason to be up that high.... I am not quite sure what part of that you are not getting....

No. You still haven't given me a reason for being up that high in the revs when driving around on the street. ...or atleast a reason that makes it neccesary.

Just because you are driving/riding a high performance vehicle in a loud fashion does not mean you are driving/riding it in an unacceptable manner....

Again....it may not be unacceptable to you.

Why is it that the person on the R6 is a *********, but the person in the Ferrari is not?

Cause in my scenario, the Ferrari isn't being loud, and isn't keeping the car in a low gear. The ferrari is being curteous and careful.
 
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