VanillaGorilla
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Having owned a FZ6R I can't see why they restrict this to M's only, its a pretty tame bike. Well I guess Yamaha can watch their market share slip even further.
meh, dead horse has been beaten, over and out
Yamaha Demo Tour @ Brampton PowerSports Aug 13
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Having owned a FZ6R I can't see why they restrict this to M's only, its a pretty tame bike. Well I guess Yamaha can watch their market share slip even further.
meh, dead horse has been beaten, over and out
EngineerJoe
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You have beginner models, but how is a beginner supposed to know if a bike is right for him if he can't take one out for a test ride?
GHarvey
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Anyone care to shed some light on this? I can assume there are lots of ways to help you figure out if a bike is right for you (Beginner rider). First off I have come to realize the folks on GTA Motorcycles are very opinionated and would bombard you with opinions on whether or not they feel a specific bike is ment for a beginner. Start your own post about it and/or join a forum that is dedicated to that model. Watch Youtube videos on the bike, read up on reviews and what the manufacture has to say. Dont forget to hear out your buddies if they ride. Lastly, I just wanted to remind you that for a dealership to get insurance for demoing motorcycles costs A LOT of money and the business has only been up and running for a few months. Brampton PowerSports is working on getting total coverage for that exact reason EngineerJoe. I understand that being able to test ride makes the decision process 100x easier but you just have to bare with us until we can get the program up and running. I am interested to know how many dealers have their insurance for demoing all of their models, anyone feel free to let me know.
I think some people here are unfairly misdirecting their frustration at Brampton Powersports. A dealer does not always have the resources to insure demo rides, and GHarvey has made valid points about why that's a problem here.
However, there is no excuse for Yamaha Canada to not be providing such insurance for their bikes. If Suzuki and Honda can do it, so can they. That's the problem I have. Not with the dealer, I have nothing but love and respect for what Brampton Powersports is doing for us. But Yamaha is the one to blame here.
However, there is no excuse for Yamaha Canada to not be providing such insurance for their bikes. If Suzuki and Honda can do it, so can they. That's the problem I have. Not with the dealer, I have nothing but love and respect for what Brampton Powersports is doing for us. But Yamaha is the one to blame here.
part of the problem lies in the inconsistency of the regulations as well.
Suzuki had no issues whatsoever allowing me to ride a GSXR 750 with an M2 at the Barrie demo. When I was at the Barrie Yamaha demo I did get a chance to ride the FZ6R with my M2, but wanted to compare it to the FZ8. I actually got bumped from the FZ8 because someone showed up way late and wanted to demo it, and was offered the Raider in exchange. I didn't take the raider out since I'd already rode the stryker but again there was no issue with putting me on Yamaha's most powerful cruiser whatsoever.
I really don't understand the discrepancies in policy depending on the locations, but I think that's something that needs to be addressed. I also think that there's a lot more to experience than the class of license you hold. I've seen threads here where people are asking to borrow or rent bikes to take their M license tests. pretty sad that one of these people that obviously don't even own a bike could stroll up and hop on an R6 when someone like me or Horizon that only have M2 licenses, may have as much or more experience than they do.
anyway, it's not going to change by bitching about it, I'll just have to make sure that next year when there's local demos I get there early if I want to make sure I get to ride the bikes I want. I just hope that these manufacturers manage get their **** together before they alienate their potential customers.
Suzuki had no issues whatsoever allowing me to ride a GSXR 750 with an M2 at the Barrie demo. When I was at the Barrie Yamaha demo I did get a chance to ride the FZ6R with my M2, but wanted to compare it to the FZ8. I actually got bumped from the FZ8 because someone showed up way late and wanted to demo it, and was offered the Raider in exchange. I didn't take the raider out since I'd already rode the stryker but again there was no issue with putting me on Yamaha's most powerful cruiser whatsoever.
I really don't understand the discrepancies in policy depending on the locations, but I think that's something that needs to be addressed. I also think that there's a lot more to experience than the class of license you hold. I've seen threads here where people are asking to borrow or rent bikes to take their M license tests. pretty sad that one of these people that obviously don't even own a bike could stroll up and hop on an R6 when someone like me or Horizon that only have M2 licenses, may have as much or more experience than they do.
anyway, it's not going to change by bitching about it, I'll just have to make sure that next year when there's local demos I get there early if I want to make sure I get to ride the bikes I want. I just hope that these manufacturers manage get their **** together before they alienate their potential customers.
slowbird
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My buddy wants an R6 but he is unsure how comfotable it is to ride. he is told by salespeople its "very comfortable" and told by others that it's not at all.
He has his M2...how can he make a descision on the R6 if he can't ride it?
He can ride the GSXR, and CBR at demo days. It's a silly restriction and it makes no sense.
He has his M2...how can he make a descision on the R6 if he can't ride it?
He can ride the GSXR, and CBR at demo days. It's a silly restriction and it makes no sense.
silverbullet132
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wonderings
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Would be nice if they had the Super Tenere. Really curious to see how that bike feels in comparison to a GS/GSA, especially considering the price in comparison. Looks like a great machine.
wonderings
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nice video, but watching someone else, especially a good rider does little for me and my judgement of the bike. Videos like that for the GS/A as well. Its hard to make a judgement on a bike without riding it, though I have done that with 3 bikes now, bought soley on the reviews. If I were to ever step away from a GSA, I would need a test ride because I cant imagine anything better then my GSA for what I want in a bike.
EngineerJoe
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Before I go on reading all the comments, I should probably clarify that I did not mean to pick on Brampton PowerSports. Before I bought a bike, I contacted these guys and they were happy to help me out. I think I mentioned to the sales rep that I had an M1, but he was un-phased. His goal was to help me out.
I also recognize that these rides are not not insured by Brampton PowerSports, but by the manufacturers themselves. I'm sure BPS will do what they can to accomidate who they can but at the end of the day, it's not their call.
To answer your question GHarvey, private sellers would let me ride their bike if I brought a certified check for the amount of the bike and left it with them while I took it for the ride. ALthough I realize this isn't a feasible option for new bikes.... and worst case, M1 riders simply wait the 60 days to get their M2.
I think the problem is with restricting some bikes to full M, not M2
moosio
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Ya, because of that... I feel like taking my business elsewhere. My 2012 R6 fund is ripe and ready.
So they have a 250 sport bike now too! Was just on the website. Click the Sport model on the left and it will bring up the new 250 sport bike, apparently, never knew it was a sport bike.......
http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/?group=M
Yamaha needs to get their shiet together.
http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/?group=M
Yamaha needs to get their shiet together.
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Nothings going good for Yamaha these days, even there own name is laughing at them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Kz8-YMWCo&t=0m1s
Yama ha ha ha ha Yama ha ha ha ha
*It's a joke, it's a joke have a good laugh.
2 more weeks:happy3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1Kz8-YMWCo&t=0m1s
Yama ha ha ha ha Yama ha ha ha ha
*It's a joke, it's a joke have a good laugh.
2 more weeks:happy3:
GHarvey
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I am sure the Yamaha rep (Jay) would be interested to hear the public comments if you come to the demo tour. He is a nice guy and took the things I was commenting on seriously and was interested to hear that we have some threads talking about them but I am unsure if Yamaha has been monitoring them.
EngineerJoe
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Will the 250 be there for demo, and will I be allowed to ride it with an M1?
by the sounds of things you'll be lucky to be allowed within 500m of the dealership with an M1
Well, there is no such thing as a 250 sport bike from Yamaha in the year 2011, if you look at their website they have the wr250x, which is a duel sport under the supersports category. It was a post to show how unprofessional their website is. There shouldn't be any mistakes.
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Guys, cool it with the negativity towards the dealer. It should directed at Yamaha Canada.
My gf and I were in there on the weekend, and we both sat on bikes no problem, no questions asked. She's pretty timid and afraid of dropping it, but no one batted an eye. They even helped her out when I wanted to see how the VFR1200 felt 2-up. Of course, it helps that I knew what I was doing, but c'mon, needing an M to sit on a bike? That's uncalled for. No need to say silly things like that.
