I thought I was the only one that noticed, saw that nice red/white/black R1 matching Brampton Powersport''s company colours and I look at the bike list and it wasn't on there??? False advertising, no biggie, not interested in it.
Yamaha Demo Tour @ Brampton PowerSports Aug 13
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I thought I was the only one that noticed, saw that nice red/white/black R1 matching Brampton Powersport''s company colours and I look at the bike list and it wasn't on there??? False advertising, no biggie, not interested in it.
GHarvey
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Lol, ya I had noticed that to and had said something, but like you said, the ad matches nice with the R1 and catches your eye. Unfortunately I am not the one who created it and cant change the pic to an R6 or something else at this time.
joeyjoejoe
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I wanted to test out the FZ8... but I guess my M2 is no good.
Stryker isn't a sport bike and it isn't PowerSport Demo Model either... does that mean an M2 is good enough?
Stryker isn't a sport bike and it isn't PowerSport Demo Model either... does that mean an M2 is good enough?
GHarvey
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I will double check on ALL the bikes that Yamaha is bringing today and ask him for each bike which class of license is acceptable and post it sometime later today so there is no more confusion because ya all he said to me was Sport bikes need an M license.
GHarvey
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no vmax?
I wish. We have one in the showroom but cant demo that yet. Im thinking Yamaha has a reason why they didnt bring their most expensive bikes. Also FYI folks, when the Yamaha rep told me the amount of bikes that are comming I tried to convince them to bring more. He said that there isnt enough turn out usually and I said, " Well if only half the people come from the Suzuki demo tour then the turn out will be good" and tried to convince him to bring more bikes. Part of the turn out problem for them is clearly the restrictions on which license you have to have, but Yamaha is comming back to PowerSports because last time they were here they got rained out and wanted to give the folks in this area another chance for demos. If we have a great turn out then next time Yamaha might reconsider how they run the Power Tour and bring additional bikes due to public request.
VanillaGorilla
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If you build it they will come, if Yamaha doesn't bring bikes that people want to ride, people won't show up. If yamaha restricts everything to an M class license, people won't show up.
I understand the way they think, seems like they have risk management as a priority. I now have my M and I probably won't bother showing up strictly because there is no R1
GHarvey
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I totally understand what your saying and where your comming from, your totally right. The Yamaha rep had said to me that they havent been getting good turn outs lately... well I am sure we can all figure out why that is. Anyways, I will do my best to relay these comments to our Demo rep and hopefully they take them to heart and give the public what they want, pretty much all I personally can do when it comes to these types of things. It really doesnt make sense to me tho, they restrict mostly to M license meaning they only want experienced riders to ride their bikes but they chose not to bring the R1 which is the bike that the majority of the seasoned riders want to try! Agreed they need to figure out which direction they want to go.
if it's the same guys that did the Barrie demo at St Onge, M2 is fine for all of Yamaha's bikes, unless they've changed it. I understand that Brampton Powersports has their own policies regarding their bikes (still sucks, cause I'd like to try an R6) but that's life.
I missed the suzuki demo, but I would like to have another go at the FZ6R and FZ8, if it can be confirmed that an M2 is sufficient for those bikes. I'm not going to drive from Barrie if there's a chance that I'll be turned away.
I missed the suzuki demo, but I would like to have another go at the FZ6R and FZ8, if it can be confirmed that an M2 is sufficient for those bikes. I'm not going to drive from Barrie if there's a chance that I'll be turned away.
daveyflakes
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In terms of restrictions, yes. I think the real difference between the two is a parking lot test vs. real road test. Someone with only an M2 may never have: been on the road, been higher than low 3rd gear, used turn signals, used mirrors, etc...
Anyway, the point is that there is certainly a difference between an M2 and an M. Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying restricting demo rides to M is a good way to filter out test riders--in fact I'm kinda sad since I've only got an M2--but that's the way they're doing it because of the difference I listed above rather than difference in the booz restriction.
Anyway, GHarvey, perhaps you could suggest a different way of restricting demo rides. Perhaps look at proof of insurance to ride on riskier bikes? That would at least demonstrate that a rider has real road experience and not fresh off of their M1X...
Every demo ride I have been at at the last couple of years, it's simple, anything 1000cc + restricted to M and there rest is fair game for M2, got your proper gear, sign the paper, done. Wait for the pre-ride talk and go out. No need to make new rules and complicate things.
Although, I think I know why now they won't let M2's ride the fz6r or fz8. I was going to bring this up earlier.
The past Saturday at the Suzuki Demo Ride, while waiting for my turn later on in the day, I was inside walking around etc. 2 mid - late 20yrs old guys and a sales rep were looking at the fz6rs and the fz8 in the corner by the vespas. I went out for my ride and came back, and saw them sitting at a desk with the sales rep. IM LIKE NO WAY, HE BOUGHT A BIKE so quickly. I passed the desk and realized that wasn't the case. One of them dropped the bike on the showroom floor and looked to scratch/scuff the side, mirror etc and were talking/discussing/arguing who's going to pay for the replacement.
Your views will change after you take and pass the easy M test.
I don't buy the exp factor just b/c someone has a M, a lot of regular everyday riders wait until their M2 is expiring before taking the test. Quite often you see someone on this forum post a thread looking for a bike to borrow to take the exam, they got their M2 and never did anymore riding. Pass the easy 20 minute test and bingo you have a M licence.
daveyflakes
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I agree. And that's exactly why I said looking at M2 vs. M may not be the best determining factor for experience. And that's also why I suggested looking at proof of insurance; which would mean you own a bike and probably ride it.
GHarvey
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Sorry for the delay, had got tied up yesterday. Just got off the phone with the Yamaha demo rep and he said for their bikes the FZ6R and FZ8 require an M license. The 950, Striker, Silverado and Raider just need an M2. The Yamaha rep does have the personal discretion to decide whether or not he feels your fit to ride their bikes just like the Suzuki rep did. Minimum age requirement is 19 also.
well, guess I'm out. Those were the only 2 bikes I wanted to ride.
+1. Like I said, better luck next year. Although by then, I probably will have bought a bike and it won't be a Yamaha.
Funny, I test rode the FZ6R at Ride For Sight with my M2 a few weeks ago.
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