Why are sellers so reluctant to get the UVIP?

Alvito

Alvito

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I've been shopping for a motorcycle for a while now. And one of my first questions to sellers is if they have the UVIP. Some say they don't know what it is, some claim that its the buyers job to get it and others say they have one from when they purchased the bike!

The reason why I want to see the UVIP is to make sure I don't get stuck with any liens on it.

There was a 2008 ninja 250 SE that I was very interested it. The seller had a lien on it of $700. He wanted me to put a deposit on the bike first. I told him to pay the lien off and then show me an updated UVIP. He didn't want to do it and I missed out on that opportunity.

MTO needs to do a better job of educating people!
 
Because it means standing in line for 1/2 hour for no other reason.
The you go do it again when you get your new bike.
It would be better if buyers got it at the same time as they get their plates and ownership transfer.
There is ZERO reason why the UVIP could not be ordered online and printed out.
 
A UVIP can be ordered online - they mail it to you. (you can do this with plate stickers now too!)

I suspect people are reluctant simply because they don't know any better - this is still a relatively new process.
 
And it costs money.
 
Ignorance, mainly. Two of the guys had liens on their bike and they didn't even know what a lien is.
 
harald said:
I suspect people are reluctant simply because they don't know any better - this is still a relatively new process.
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UVIP has been available since at least the mid 90s when I got my license. Sellers are cheap and lazy.
 
what happens if u register a bike with a lien on it?
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I guess you gotta pay it off, and the bank will put something down to take away from you if you dont.....

Not to mention it's required BY LAW that the seller provide it.
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Bingo!

*Shady sellers maybe?....
 
MacDoc said:
Because it means standing in line for 1/2 hour for no other reason.
The you go do it again when you get your new bike.
It would be better if buyers got it at the same time as they get their plates and ownership transfer.
There is ZERO reason why the UVIP could not be ordered online and printed out.
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Well, you don't buy a UVIP unless you're committed to the purchase, make sure that the bike is within your budget, checked the mechanical aspect of it and it's just a matter of finding out whether the bike has a registered lien or not.

You can buy it when you're doing the transfer, however it's better to do so before you hand the seller any money. (assuming he won't give you the ownership unless its paid in full)

Plus. 20$ is well worth the peace of mind.
 
harald said:
You the buyer don't purchase it at all. The seller is required to provide it to you.
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I don't get caught up in the politics, if he has it, great. If not, you end up negotiating the price anyways and you can get back that 20$...

The seller could get a loan against the vehicle the day after he prints the UVIP and shows the buyer a clean, lien free UVIP.
Meanwhile, the vehicle has a 5000$ lien. Getting the most recent UVIP is a good idea to prevent yourself from this kind of fraud.
20$ well spent....
 
2live&ride said:
I don't get caught up in the politics, if he has it, great. If not, you end up negotiating the price anyways and you can get back that 20$...

The seller could get a loan against the vehicle the day after he prints the UVIP and shows the buyer a clean, lien free UVIP.
Meanwhile, the vehicle has a 5000$ lien. Getting the most recent UVIP is a good idea to prevent yourself from this kind of fraud.
20$ well spent....
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Do you know how many days it takes to get the lien to show up on the UVIP?

Getting a UVIP from a seller is like pulling teeth....
 
stratofortress said:
Do you know how many days it takes to get the lien to show up on the UVIP?

Getting a UVIP from a seller is like pulling teeth....
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I'm sure it doesn't happen in a flash... but it's still a good precaution.
If I'm spending money on a summer toy, it means I could afford to. 20$ is not going to break the bank...
 
That's right and that's why it should be available online at the buyers request.

Seems here some have not sold many bikes if they think sellers are a pain you should have to deal with the tire kickers and plain idjits on the buying side.

Got so I take a deposit before i get the safety done.
 
Can you sue the seller if he fails to disclose a lien against a bike? Also why do they punish the new seller and not go after the guy who actually owns the money? Those people selling bikes with liens have plates on them and insurance right? How do they get it?
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