Kitchener man charged with racing – 177 km/h in 80 zone on motorcycle
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no, he's here cause he had a steering damper.
why? Could of been in anther country where speeding isn't even frowned upon. Maybe in Montana?
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WRONG.....just google 'motorcycle hits deer' on youtube and you will see that if you are going fast enough you don't wipe out, you just cut the deer in half. Only the slow guys crash.
Everytime I get on my bike I break the speed limit by a fair margin, mabie I should go to a 125 and be more responsible....lol. Rural road with houses is not the place to speed but the guy was probably in first and nailed it to second and rolled off and slowed down which wouldn't take too much time/space to get back down to 80 if you grab a handful of brakes. If he was cruising at 177 then that's a whole differnt story.
Holmes
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Its true!
The only time 177 km/h wouldn't be dangerous or careless would be at the track or a cleared airfield/landing strip.
There are driveways and intersections.
We complain about not being seen by cagers all the time. How does anyone expect a cager to see and anticpate a rider travelling 177 km/h?
I've travelled that section of road doing the speed limit and had a pick up truck pull out in front of me from the right and into my lane. Passing wasn't an option due to on coming traffic. I was certain the cager saw me as they approached the road. Apparently not.
SS or not, I don't think it would be possible to slow in time and a gravel shoulder for an escape route isn't a great option.
This isn't a deserted road folks.
There are driveways and intersections.
We complain about not being seen by cagers all the time. How does anyone expect a cager to see and anticpate a rider travelling 177 km/h?
I've travelled that section of road doing the speed limit and had a pick up truck pull out in front of me from the right and into my lane. Passing wasn't an option due to on coming traffic. I was certain the cager saw me as they approached the road. Apparently not.
SS or not, I don't think it would be possible to slow in time and a gravel shoulder for an escape route isn't a great option.
This isn't a deserted road folks.
Why not, and where do you suggest speeding, given your propensity for breaking the speed limit "by a fair margin"?
Alan
Comparatively speaking.. if the average car is 'flying' like a Cessna, then the motorcyclist in this case is 'flying' like a P51 Mustang. That's a more accurate statement of the absurd, if you wish to accuse me of making them.
How many years you been riding, 'buddy'?
All of the points i made, were examples that i've encountered personally, or that i've known others to have encountered - some with painful results, some fatally. Seen the consequences, attended the funerals, helped pick up the wreckage at the side of the road. Been there, done that.
You are the one making more ASSumptions in order to try to justify excessive speed, where no proof exists that he's taken those steps, in this particular case.
My assumptions are likely more grounded and realistic than the lot of you making assumptions about your own lofty skills at stupid excessive speed rates, with your heads stuffed up your own rectal cavities, that i am sure. Moral high ground taken or not, be damned.
Never. The cool kids rode early GSXR1100's and GPZ Ninja's. I was the dork on a 750 Seca or a done-up GS1000 that shedded parts. The cool kids liked to blow me into the weeds and watch me wobble in their wake. That's about as 'SS' as i ever got. Coolness scale fail.
I would, if i could actually afford insurance this year. Due to equal parts health issues, and increasing insurance costs, I am grounded this year - the first time since 1986. But thanks!!
Figuratively speaking? yes, it was better than the bus system at the time to get around town!
$50.00 recycled Honda Cub for a poor teenager, FTW!
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Common sense ain't so common any more...
But he didn't end up in that position. Any other fantasies you want to post about how it might have have turned out.
Hmm, so you admit that you've done stupid **** like this in the past, but that's OK. But if someone else does it, they have to listen to one of your preachy stupid *** speeches, like the one posted here.....OK....
I make no apologies, and have no excuses. In the context of this thread, what i've 'preached' is revelant and appropriate. If i didn't truthfully disclose that i too have sinned in the past, then you'd be the first to point out that i'm a hypocrite of the worst type - and i would agree with that assessment.
If you don't like what i have to say, then respectfully, go pound sand. You've historically taken issue with my posts .. and it's your perogative to do so - as if it matters to me....OK....
Seriously dude! if you're impying... its one thing to judge this guy "with no real evidense on your part" its another thing to think i might evade cops, for all you know i could be someone affiliated with some sort of law. But you are right if the guy decided to run i don't think he'd be on the news, but then that makes you think dosen't it what does honesty really get you in life, and knowing the world turns by a few things like money and power, whilst everything else is valid if you can afford to have those two. This whole notion of this guy is the devil for speeding and could have killed someone is just proof society has not developed to being able to think rationally over the last thousand years if not longer. the truth is the world like when it was first concieved by man is still the same. Make an example of out the ones who are honest and own up, and the real havoc and killers get away. Not saying that its impossible for him not to hurt someone at those speeds, but we aren't God and we cannot predict what will happen, but we definately were given common sense by the creator to use our brains to think using probability. Compare the everyday accidents and injuries and people killed by regular traffic compared to these kinds of cases. You will see the likly hood of a situation like this actually killing a bystander is almost rare, and in this "perfect" world everything dies! sure the biker could have killed a bystander, but he wouldn't be alive himself either to face the punishment. Imposing such a punisment on this guy is not going to stop the stupid bimbos like the one who killed a 5 year old girl last week who was crossing the pedestrian walk way, while the female driver was distracted with her self and her cell phone and useless garbage in her car! those are the types of real murderes on the street, the ones who take a risk witout "ANY" care for self or public safety, atleast when a guy/girl is pushing it on their toy, they are aware of the risks and are paying all attention and skill to avoid an accident if something does happen, still not right but, you get the point!
Im neither for or against this guy, but trying to state that just it being dangerous or might kill someone is not a good excuse to tarnish someones reputation, and job and life and such, just because they were out trying to have some maganeable risk fun.
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Okay so let me get this straight you seem to think pushing a police cruiser beyond this guys speed is okay and legal, but he should get an example made out of for a lesser speed on a machine that is built for one purpose and thats to go fast? i mean its either a fact you have personally driven a police cruiser past 200kmh on public roads and broken the law yourself, or you haven't and you're basing your comment on hearsay! which one is it?
And like you state, it will usually take the cop twice the speed and risk to pull over someone they are trying to get speeding, so why does it make sense to do twice as much law breaking to catch the lesser law breaking and have the lesser unlawful act blown out of proportion?
If im not making myself clear, this type of law and thinking is going to bite everyone in the rear one day, and you guys who defend such cases seem to think the law 50 and over was it,mistaken for sure you are, wait till its so difficult that driving will become a terrifying headache for most people or even un affordable knowing they will get another stupid ticket for something that is blown out of the sky.
and for those that defend the law against this guy on the defense that guys like him kill and hurt innocent pedestrians or other drivers, let me just say i have been on the recieving end, and this guy is not my concern, after hearing the same stories for 2 years and still visiting my physiotherapy i can tell you, i have not come across one case where it was an experienced biker or car enthusiats that caused someone his/her life "which makes sense, beyond the fact that mistakes can happen we are not perfect, that anyone who is remotely into cars and bikes has a good handle and experience on not killing or hurting people and causing accidents everyday with having better control of their motorvehicle then the average driver who truely doesn't care" ... most if not all of the fellow injured people i met were hit by.... the sister or daughter or the woman, playing with her cell phone and dog while driving, or cramming their friends, singing dancing eating and talking while driving, the guys/girls who drink and drive like its a normal everyday thing, the arrogant jackasses who seem to think they own everything on the road and can do what ever they like, the blind old people who shouldn't even be driving, they may not have a ticket in the last 30 years because cops propbably pull up beside them ****** then feel sorry for them because they are old, until that old person kills 5 other people by accidently running a red. The truck and trailer drivers, cagers causing road rage everyday and hundreds of cyclists being run over by idiots in pick up trucks and corollas and so on its the "normal drivers" causing people their lives.
The whole concept of people with fast cars and bikes are going to murder innocent people it the bigggest BS i have come to realise after my own near death accident, and you know what i was the one who was hit, who almost lost his life, is stuck with thousands and thousands of dollars in lawyer fees and even lawyers fees to fight my own insurance company not to be cheap and pay for most of my expenses, and even though it was not my fault the person that hit me got off scot free because cops couldn't charge the driver because it was private property, wow, so you guys still think cops give a **** what the victim feels like?
They told my friends at the scene in an annoyed manner "we can't do anything you guys have to sort something out" and when they realised they couldn't charge anyone they left, to a another scene which i personally overherd on their radio while being lifted in the ambulance, that another person or biker was hit close by. My other accident was when i was much younger a friends friend was being a jackass and racing his car through the neighbourhood with his lights off and passengers in his car and i was leaving a house around the bend with one passenger and two girls in the back, while the moron came around the corner at 50-60kmh and hit my car, my car split in half the rear end went to the lawn of the house opposite and front half the other side the other guys car was frontal heavy damage, his passenger was injured, but by a myrical no one in my car was injured because i made everyone wear seat belts all the time, the only person in my car injured was me with my head hitting the drivers window and bleeding. what happened next was this, the kid that hit me his dad was a supervisor cop, and the kid himself was becoming a cop, with already two accidents under his name and several drug charges covered up "i later found out" i knew i was about to get screwed over, basically they tricked me into paying them for damages using my innocent fear of parents and insurance hike then them taking both cars hiding the whole thing ever happening for the time being then callin my insurance and them being cops who do you think they would believe on top of that they mentioned to my insurance i was drunk, placed beer bottles in my car, my car was ticketed, and the friend i though would back me up went against me, i was royally screwed over. I was just lucky i had pee'd in the hospital that night and they took samples, so i wasn't charged with drunk driving. They simply after that shovedthe whole thing under like it never happened but i still had that accident claim against me for 3 years and high insurance primiums. They might have not been able to hide it and get rid of it, but they used what power they could by being cops and screwed another person over, and it will always be like that no matter what.
"power currupts, absolute power currupts absolutely"
The point is this guy only seems to be the ultimate criminal and bad guy because he let himself in a position where they could nail him left right and centre, people need to understand the government and any law dosen't give two cents about you or me or the speeder or victim, they make it seem that way by making us against each other when the fact is they only care about one thing, making money and those working for them have the need to feel superior and move up their workforce ladder and ofcourse make money and are the only ones protected by breaking the law.
And if someone is still not convinced you should meet some black water agents down in woodbridge who get paind 400k plus a year to go around the world and kill people for fun! The truth is its not about innocense, or being killed its about who can make the rules and impose them and who stays in this bubble believe that they are wrong because the law says so, while some laws are legit things like this are plainly there to mess you up and squeeze money out of you.
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I have a headache now.
