Probably not the best idea to mention that on here.
Kitchener man charged with racing – 177 km/h in 80 zone on motorcycle
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Probably not the best idea to mention that on here.
Griffin
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Seen the same thing more than once. One particularly curvy road I know of the cops in the group had to wait at the end for the rest of us who were risking our licences were we to ride that fast, to catch up.
I've had the opportunity of driving a decomissioned police car BEFORE it was downgraded for civilian use.
I will tell you this, they have a pretty good level of performance, especially in a straight line. Getting beyond 200km/h in today's police cruisers isn't a problem at all.
Also adding on the fact which someone mentioned, not everyone runs when they see flashing lights, no matter how much of a lead they have.
If the police officer clocked him at 177km/h while standing still on the side of the road, it's true that the biker will have a significant lead over the officer by the time he gets his cruiser to the same speed, and then it takes even more time to close that distance by going faster than the clocked speed.
The ultra-bright light bars they have is sometimes enough to get an honest person to pull over knowing that since they are most likely the only motorist on the road, the police is after them; and I'm sure this 47y/o man was well aware of the laws he was breaking.
Do you think the cop had to wait until the bike was right in front of him to get a lock on speed? The bike could have been a kilometer or more away and approaching the LEO. I would suspect the rider may have slowed when they spotted the cop but, was too late. I think it's plausable for a cop to clock a vehicle at 177 km/h and stop them without having to chase them down at a speed exceding the offender.
My only issue is with 172 itself. Prior to 172 and currently still have existing laws to apply to circumstances just like this. Is 177 km/h in an 80 km/h zone just speeding? Would it be considered careless? Maybe even dangerous?
The system isn't perfect but, the process should be respected. 172 doesn't.
JMO.
My only issue is with 172 itself. Prior to 172 and currently still have existing laws to apply to circumstances just like this. Is 177 km/h in an 80 km/h zone just speeding? Would it be considered careless? Maybe even dangerous?
The system isn't perfect but, the process should be respected. 172 doesn't.
JMO.
mma01
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+1. Some of the craziest rides I have, um, heard about, back in the day were with several members of Toronto Police / ETF. Getting pulled over along with an ETF member is as close to a "get out of jail free" card as you can get.
oh cops will be cops...they enforce the law so they are above and about 99% of the time get away with it... with "excessive" speeding...
only the lucky few....get caught cause they need to be "made an example of"
who are you kidding...we all ride motorcycles and have done those speed at least once in your life time...safe or unsafe it's been done...(unless you got a 125
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only the lucky few....get caught cause they need to be "made an example of"
who are you kidding...we all ride motorcycles and have done those speed at least once in your life time...safe or unsafe it's been done...(unless you got a 125
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Dresden
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This thread sounds very familiar to this:
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F4IZZY
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Why is it that the majority of riders jump on their bikes (majority of SS) and all of a sudden a certain "cool factor" trumps all laws of the road. Hey look at me! I'm on a motorcycle! Look how fast I can go! 177 that's it?! It can go 300! I'm so cool! Wow a rider following the speed limit!? what's wrong with him/her? Don't deny it people, we have speed limits for a reason and when you get nailed dont cry about how you cant afford the insurance anymore cuz you knew what you were doing.
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Nyx13
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This is exactly what it comes down to and the fact that people are condoning it saying that it's really not so bad...blah, blah, blah....is pathetic. I'm sure their reaction to the entire thing would do a 180 if this guy had actually injured or almost run down someone they know or if they themselves had been there and had to perform evasive maneuvers due to his self-indulgent-azz behaviour. I haven't caused a single accident I've been involved in...yet I've been nailed and injured. Stating what should be obvious; You can't always get out of the way of pricks like this.
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Holmes
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yes... the internet police are coming! Censorship time!
This one time I was r****g up the 4** and i was r*c**g a Lam***gini, I was in *rd gear and hit over 3** K*/h! All the while I was up on o** w***l fl***ing off a c*p!
I wasn't aware that being a SS rider on a machine capable of 220 km/hr++ speeds imparted the average Mark I human being with Super-Human reaction and observation skills, and also gave you pre-cognitive powers of prediction at velocities of 50 meters/sec+. Pre-cognitive powers of when and where a deer is going to come bounding out of a field beside that 80 km/h road, or where each and every pothole, minor or major is located, that might cause a front-end tank slapper at those grossly excessive speeds, potentially sending you into a rude wake-up next week, or a car pulling out of an unseen laneway that could have hardly predicted that your thrill-seeking arse would broad-side them right into a world of hurt and grief.
It's amazing that people, in this thread included, think that the grossly-excessive speeder (or any other self-absorbed risk-taker, for that matter) has control over all the factors that separate a good time, from potential tragedy, and that harm will only come to them if they screw up. Sometimes the acceptable limits that are pushed, aren't just speed-related.
Yeah, i've done such stupid **** in the past. I've also come to recognize that living for the thrill of the moment at the potential expense of injury or death for myself - or more importantly to others - is just not worth doing that sort of stupid **** any longer.
Are we all so self-absorbed, that many are incapable of recognizing the true risks of such behavior? By this thread, I fear that this is so.
No wonder our insurance rates are through the fricking roof.
Can't wait until you get your first ticket.
What do you mean. That is the EXACT reason I got my bike. It was the cheapest way for me to get my milk and eggs home in half the time it took with a car that I could afford
.Me at the time I bought it...my bike was my only transport and it was cheaper than getting a car. Partly the reason why I wanted to stay on it rather than have it taken away from me. Perhaps you've hit upon the real reason for this type of behaviour.....people still have their cars to fall back on if their toys get taken away from them.
optionfa
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He was going 177km on a flat straight stretch of highway, not flying a F15 lets simmer down you're getting a little too excited.
People love this one, ya sure the chances of hitting a deer in a rural enviroment are present. I wonder how many fatal collisions with deer are directly a result of excessive speeds or just the simple fact that it does not matter if you're going 80 or 177 if a deer jumps out infront of you. It's more a matter of timing then rider input, in fact if you are going fast enough you may end up crossing paths with said deer before he makes it infront of your motorcycle while the same rider going the speed limit would collide.
Maybe he thought of this and installed a steering damper?
Since we are playing "what if's" what if he could clearly see for severl km's and there was no chance of any hidden roadways up ahead when he decided to twist the throttle.
It's amazing that people in this thread make so many assumptions and generalized statements in order to take the moral high ground.
preach on buddy! I'm sure you use to be cool
This line should honestly be some of your guys signature you use it so often.
Obviously, the rider wasn't "on-the-ball" enough to spot the cop with radar and slow down. Where's Waldo?
I wonder how much attention is actually given to driving by the average person when driving. I'd guess anywhere from 40-60%, even less, if the driver is engaged in conversation, day-dreaming, eating/drinking, yelling at the kids, putting on makeup, looking at distractions, tuning the radio, texting, etc - and you want to do double the speed limit or more? Some brilliant engineer probably factored in a reasonable amount of care when determining a reasonably safe rate of speed for a given stretch of highway, in all the circumstances.
I would imagine a motorcycle would require a higher standard of care than a cage. Yeah, a biker can attempt to pay close to 100% attention and cope with obstacles at twice the speed limit, but you can't predict the actions of others or depend on them to pay sufficient attention to cope with your excessive speed.
Hey......lets reduce the legal driving age to 10, so the 16-25 y/o's have someone to complain about. And while we're at it, the city shouldn't bother closing streets and putting up barricades for the Molson Indy........just let the chips fall as they may.
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vrus
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