Your opinion- I want to get a digital SLR or something close enough - What suggests u

I like the Nikon 1, at $860 @ best buy its right in a price range ( i'm considering a FujiX100) , my worry is water proof to 50', I really don't want to spend $900 to find out they meant 35'.
 
composition and planning a shot is more important than the tool your holding.

A lot the foreign ride reports show meal pictures but you never see anything on the other end like toilets and urinals.
 
Ok let me clarify
Under $400 (maybe $500) kinda point and shoot.
I don't want a big bulky camera, no real need for a DSLR for me.

Something like the Panasonic TZ8 (older model), that idea.

Canon S100

You're welcome.

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Here you go...this looks pretty good, on sale right now. http://m.canadacomputers.com/mobile/itemid/085354

sale ends tomorrow...better hurry if you want this one. You could also try to price match somewhere.

Smokin' deal. Just price out the lens alone for sale. Much better than the other new camera options posted imo. And I agree with previous posts suggesting buying used. Even better deals to be had buying used with many great camera options. Many people still rock old quality camera options, and those who serially want to upgrade result in a used market with great value options.

IMO if one wants good a good photographic tool moving beyond basic P&S (at P&S you may as well use a quality cell phone), focus on cameras with good bones and ignore irrelevant "sales" features. That is get something with shooting flexibility (manual and auto features, exposure compensation, various ISOs, hot shoe, built in flash, lens interchangeability, many quality and quantity lens options, a good ecosystem (as mentioned before), etc. Features like wifi, waterproof, freeze-proof, etc add to the cost of a camera but do nothing to improve IQ and general shooting flexibility. Lots of options out there for great quality enthusiast cameras from sony mirrorless to m4/3, etc, to basic dslrs, and so on.
 
For portable cameras, we have been using Panasonic DMC cameras (waterproof, built-in GPS etc). The picture quality is Ok, nothing amazing, but they have stood up really well. They have been up mountains, snorkelling (with dives to ~30'), in salt water, etc. and we've never had trouble with them. I love the waterproof cameras for adventures because you can leave them easily accessible. When kayaking, I just clip it to the lifejacket and let it hang, I can take a picture in less than 2 seconds. With the DSLR, it undoubtedly takes better pictures, but it has to live in a waterproof bag and doesn't appreciate salt spray so it gets used rarely on adventures.

For DSLR, I have Canon (at the time I bought it, I tried both canon and nikon and preferred canon). I have some decent glass and have a friend with phenomenal glass. I think I prefer Nikon bodies now, but switching would take too much time and money. I may make up a travel DSLR that can take decent pictures and is cheap enough that I don't mind risking it (20d+50 1.8? for ~$250). At this point, that setup is probably cheaper and not much bigger than a 4/3.
 
tl;dr and for those of you just tuning in: this thread has all sorts of conflicting advice.
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tl;dr and for those of you just tuning in: this thread has all sorts of conflicting advice.
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I'm not a photo enthusiast, but enjoy reading the threads. When you say conflicting, would it be fair to say opposing opinions? I have wifi on my camera. Have never used it. Would much rather have had the extra money go into an additional optical zoom. For others, they like the digital zoom. So for me, I love these type of threads; find who uses what in the type of way I would use it, then copy. Gonna look at that Canon you posted.

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I agree for P&S that previous posters noting Panasonic DMC versions and some Canon series cameras tend to lead the pack year over year.

At this point, that setup (20D+ lens) is probably cheaper and not much bigger than a 4/3.

I guess so if you think being around 2x the size is "not" much bigger. At least compared to ranger finder style m4/3 (fwiw 4/3 is different from m4/3).

Here is a GF1 for comparison, one of the older larger range finder style m4/3's. There are more compact newer versions available.

Lumix GF1 Review by Danny Choo, on Flickr

Lumix GF1 Review by Danny Choo, on Flickr


Lumix GF1 Review by Danny Choo, on Flickr

Lumix GF1 Review by Danny Choo, on Flickr

I use a 20mm f1.7 pancake similar to the last shot above on the left for portability trips.

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OP, I highly recommend you save some money for a good book on photography basics. It is vastly helpful.
 
OP, I highly recommend you save some money for a good book on photography basics. It is vastly helpful.

Henry's used to have basic photography classes, that might be something to look for if they still do that or not.
 
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