Yet another shooting in the USA

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[h=1]Three dead in shooting near Texas A&M University[/h]By Jim Forsyth | Reuters – 1 hr 11 mins ago





SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A gunman killed two people on Monday, including a law enforcement officer who was serving him an eviction notice at a home near Texas A&M University, before police fatally shot him, officials said.
Four people also were injured, police and city officials in College Station said. The shooting comes at a time of national concern over gun violence after two recent mass shootings.
The dead officer was identified as Brazos County Constable Brian Bachmann, said Scott McCollum, assistant chief of the police department in College Station.
McCollum said Bachmann, 41, was shot in front of the house, about two blocks from the Texas A&M campus, and was pronounced dead at a hospital.
A 65-year-old male bystander also was killed, according to Jay Socol, a spokesman for the city of College Station, but his name was not released. The gunman, who has not been identified, was in his mid-30s, Socol said.
He said Bachmann had gone to the home to serve an eviction notice.
Officials said the wounded included a 55-year-old woman, who underwent surgery, and a College Station police officer, who was in stable condition after being shot in the leg.
Two other officers were injured but not by gunshots and their injuries were not life-threatening, Socol said.
"We had officers respond to a 'shots fired' call," McCollum said at a news conference. "Once the officers arrived, they began to trade fire. The officers defended themselves and called in additional officers."
College Station police officers shot and killed the gunman, said Jason James, a sergeant with the police department in nearby Bryan, Texas.
The university issued a "code maroon" shortly after noon, warning students and employees that an "active shooter" was in the area west of campus and asking them to stay away.
A university spokesman said he was unaware if any of the victims were students.
The College Station shooting comes less than four weeks after a man opened fire in a crowded Colorado movie theater during a midnight showing of "The Dark Knight Rises," killing 12 people and wounded 58 others.
On August 5 a gunman killed six people at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin before committing suicide.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said Monday at a Miami news conference that there should be no change to current gun laws.
"We've now had apparently … three of these tragedies in a row and I happen to believe this is not a matter of the weapon that is used," Romney said. "It's a matter of the individuals, the choices these people make and we have to understand those kinds of choices from being made."




(Additional reporting by Lily Kuo, Steve Holland and Mary Slosson; Writing by Colleen Jenkins and Corrie MacLaggan; Editing by Cynthia Johnston and Bill Trott)
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While I am pro gun ownership, if it wasn't so easy to get a gun they wouldn't have a dead cop and a dead innocent bystander.
 
and they still refuse to talk about it...

yeah sure its about the choices people make, but there is a reason why we care a lot more about the choices of a person with a gun vs a person that doesn't. and a country that has a nuke vs a country that doesn't.

One has the means to turn their choices into reality, the other does not.

Sure they can use a knife, but anyone can see that the Saskatchwan bus decapitation incident would have ended much differently if the guy had an AK 47 instead.
 
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Maybe look into how often a gun has prevented rape, murder, assault ,kidnapping before becoming hysterical.
[SIZE=+1]The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The authors concluded that defensive uses of guns are about three to four times as common as criminal uses of guns. The National Self-Defense Survey confirmed the picture of frequent defensive gun use implied by the results of earlier, less sophisticated surveys.[/SIZE]
 
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sonnythebull said:
Maybe look into how often a gun has prevented rape, murder, assault ,kidnapping before becoming hysterical.
[SIZE=+1]The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The authors concluded that defensive uses of guns are about three to four times as common as criminal uses of guns. The National Self-Defense Survey confirmed the picture of frequent defensive gun use implied by the results of earlier, less sophisticated surveys.[/SIZE]
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guns = evil baby killers
 
If I carried and came across two people shooting at each other what side should I take? In the old movies the good guys wore white hats.
 
nobbie48 said:
If I carried and came across two people shooting at each other what side should I take? In the old movies the good guys wore white hats.
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Ones wearing a police uniform are usually the good guys. If their pants are around their knees and their gun is side ways they're usually the bad guys
 
You people need to look up "mass stabbings" in places like Japan and China where guns aren't readily available. The number of victims in single attacks is an eye opener for those who think guns make it 'easier'.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-08-stabbing-tokyo_N.htm

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
 
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I have to say, 2 cops and a bystander apparently were taking pot-shots at the shooter..it could be argued that rampant gun ownership actually decreased the number of potential victims here... I think the Americans are just angry people though..
 
jc100 said:
Statistics is a funny thing. You could also put up a graph of violent crime vs car ownership which would look similar. Would you include that cars stop violent crime? The better graph would be gun crime vs gun ownership.
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do you have any idea how many people die every year from car accidents? we need a war on cars, and ban cars in general. no cars no car deaths. simple :D
 
Paul1000RR said:
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Paul1000RR said:
guns = evil baby killers
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Paul1000RR said:
Ones wearing a police uniform are usually the good guys. If their pants are around their knees and their gun is side ways they're usually the bad guys
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Paul1000RR said:
do you have any idea how many people die every year from car accidents? we need a war on cars, and ban cars in general. no cars no car deaths. simple :D
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Paul1000RR said:
if you;re canadian you hide under a table and wait for a real man to come save you lol

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Paul1000RR said:
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Do you realise you are avoiding the topic by flooding the discussion with nonsense?
 
sonnythebull said:
Maybe look into how often a gun has prevented rape, murder, assault ,kidnapping before becoming hysterical.
[SIZE=+1]The National Self-Defense Survey indicated that there were 2.5 million incidents of defensive gun use per year in the U.S. This is probably a conservative estimate, for two reasons. First, cases of respondents intentionally withholding reports of genuine defensive-gun uses were probably more common than cases of respondents reporting incidents that did not occur or that were not genuinely defensive. Second, the survey covered only adults age 18 and older, thereby excluding all defensive gun uses involving adolescents, the age group most likely to suffer a violent victimization.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]The authors concluded that defensive uses of guns are about three to four times as common as criminal uses of guns. The National Self-Defense Survey confirmed the picture of frequent defensive gun use implied by the results of earlier, less sophisticated surveys.[/SIZE]
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Paul1000RR said:
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Can you guys link your sources please?
 
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