Wow that was so close man, my pants would of been wet. Glad your okay bro!
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wow why always me
- Thread starter doddy
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Glad you're ok OP! That was scary close! Not much you could have done once you saw them in your mirrors except gun it and make a right turn, maybe? I'm sure it was so fast, and it's not something you expect to happen, so you pretty much stare in your mirrors wondering WTF is going on! I hope you did buy a lotery ticket!
Alvito
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"I DIDN'T SEE THE FLASHING RED AND BLUE LIGHTS BEHIND ME, HONESTLY MR. JUDGE"
What night for you OP. Hope your leg is alright.
Ride safe.
Alvito
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You've been hit by a car going 150km/h and you live to tell the tale. If that story doesn't get you laid, nothing will.
vdk
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Partially untrue. If you have an accident, the insurance companies will use your benefits first. I found out the hard way, with a not-at-fault.
Prince
Banned
Glad you're ok OP, frightening moment!
Two things:
1) It should be made illegal for cops to chase "any" vehicle. It almost always ends in disaster for an innocent party. American's make entertainment out of it (Cops, Disorderly Conduct). It's just plain stupidity. Defensive driving may be to get to the right side of the curb lane while stopping at night with drunk drivers out and about and wanna be "bad boys, watcha gonna do..." in pursuit. Good advice for everyone a all y'alls!
2) Be careful with webcams or v-logging. What you are recording could be used against you if it's seized at the scene of an accident "you" cause. And worst case scenario (and very grim), you could be recording your own death!
Two things:
1) It should be made illegal for cops to chase "any" vehicle. It almost always ends in disaster for an innocent party. American's make entertainment out of it (Cops, Disorderly Conduct). It's just plain stupidity. Defensive driving may be to get to the right side of the curb lane while stopping at night with drunk drivers out and about and wanna be "bad boys, watcha gonna do..." in pursuit. Good advice for everyone a all y'alls!
2) Be careful with webcams or v-logging. What you are recording could be used against you if it's seized at the scene of an accident "you" cause. And worst case scenario (and very grim), you could be recording your own death!
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omg wow, so happy you two are ok. Got to remember to bring my cam with me... keep on forgetting and so many stupid things happen in front of me.
I think the operative issue is whether there are grounds to sue to begin with, and whose insurance would cover it if there was. The thief's, the stolen car owner's, or the OPs? The issue arose in response to this gem:
In any case, it would come out of YOUR insurance coverage, whether through an employer's health insurance plan if you have it, or through your own bike insurance if you don't. You wouldn't be screwing the "that guy's" insurance at all.
You'd only be screwing your own insurance if you claimed or sued for treatment that you didn't need. And given that many employer health insurance plans come with lifetime claim limits for specific types of items, you could ultimately end up screwing yourself in the long run.
Why should chases be made "illegal"? You mean you want it so that if you simply drive off from the cops, they should just let you? Let me guess, you will now say they got your plate number, they can just mail the ticket to you. What if the owner of the car is not driving, or if the plate is stolen , or it the vehicle is stolen, or lets say the car is not stolen, but the owner reports it stolen 5 min after the cop did not chase? There are so many reasons your plan will be feasable, all because you figure they all end in tragedy?
Then you recommend riders watch what they record because it may bite them in the ***? Do I sense a bit a paranoia here?
adamwest
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Chases should be made illegal because they increase the risk of innocent by-standers. Or do you feel Police are above the law? I think it should be considered that the time will come for a repeat offender to be processed. Perhaps they should just let them go to be dealt with another day when circumstances are more in favor of a clean catch then dirtying the waters with risking the public. Just saying. But you know what happens? Police are human too. They also can get caught up with the adrenaline rush of the chase and it requires a special person in a good mental state to call it off.
If chases are made 'illegal', then you might as well throw up your hands and give society over to the criminal element. It really is that simple. Guidelines should be followed, to try to maintain public safety, but any absolute statement is absolutely wrong.
Police are permitted to pursue subject to their force's pursuit policies and procedures, so this is not an issue of what you call police being somehow above the law.
That "special person" you speak of is the supervisor at the other end of the radio who can order an end to the pursuit at any time.
If there was a no pursuit policy, the result would be immediately obvious. More people would refuse to stop secure in the knowledge that they would not be chased. Maybe government should amend the law making the vehicle owner personally responsible for all offences when the actual operator cannot be identified, with the only exception being if the vehicle was reported stolen prior to the chase.
The result would be obvious. More car thieves would refuse to stop secure in the knowledge that the car they just stole has not yet been reported stolen...
In any case, this has a great potential of royally screwing someone innocent.
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