WOW! Near death rear end collision! :0 SCARY!

BTW WTF was the woman bitching about? The truck driver didn't hold up the funeral procession. They were stopped before the collision. Too bad the film wasn't longer she might have said for the sake of the children:lmao:

She wasn't bitching about being held up, she was saying "This is a funeral procession, god forbid (the pickup driver killed someone)."
 
You need to familiarize yourself with insurance guidelines. Yes, every rear-end accident is the person behind's fault, 100% of the time. ESPECIALLY in downtown Toronto. The one and only exception is if you're at a complete stop and are pushed into the car in front of you. If you're a crappy driver (which your posts strongly suggest) that's fine, but there's literally NO way whatsoever you're going to be able to justify your position. Especially on this forum and especially with someone like Wasted who works in Insurance.

Remember the Emergency Stop you did on your M, G2 and G road tests? You can do those anywhere, 100% legally and traffic behind you is obligated to SLOW DOWN and pass SAFELY.

you should go back and read some posts or maybe learn to read. i said from a insurance standpoint the rear ender is pretty much always at fault. im talking about how you'd assess the situation if you were on the side looking at it, like a regular person.

ive been driving in toronto for years, average 30k a year, half of that downtown, and ride there daily now. no collisions no demerit points ever. you're in sue st marie..... you commute 10 hours a day to come to downtown toronto?

like i wrote before... i think every accident is shared blamed, and everyone involved could have done something to avoid it... that is the best way to learn from it and see. 100% blame is for insurance purposes. i care about accident avoidance and staying alive.
 
you should go back and read some posts or maybe learn to read. i said from a insurance standpoint the rear ender is pretty much always at fault. im talking about how you'd assess the situation if you were on the side looking at it, like a regular person.

ive been driving in toronto for years, average 30k a year, half of that downtown, and ride there daily now. no collisions no demerit points ever. you're in sue st marie..... you commute 10 hours a day to come to downtown toronto?

like i wrote before... i think every accident is shared blamed, and everyone involved could have done something to avoid it... that is the best way to learn from it and see. 100% blame is for insurance purposes. i care about accident avoidance and staying alive.

I was rear ended in march. I was stopped at a red light with a car in front of me. The person behind wasn't paying attention and drove into the back of me pushing my car (the brakes applied) into the car I front of me. The accident wrote off two of the three cars and has left left me with a permanent scar on the left side of my forehead. Please!! Tell me what I did wrong. How could I have avoided that accident??

Show that video to any insurance professional, police office, tow truck driver, paramedic, body shop technician.....anyone at all in the industry and tell me if you find one single person who agrees with you. The fact is that if ever single person involved in an entire industry (not insurance but accidents) says you're wrong, than guess what, you're wrong.
 
I was rear ended in march. I was stopped at a red light with a car in front of me. The person behind wasn't paying attention and drove into the back of me pushing my car (the brakes applied) into the car I front of me. The accident wrote off two of the three cars and has left left me with a permanent scar on the left side of my forehead. Please!! Tell me what I did wrong. How could I have avoided that accident??

Show that video to any insurance professional, police office, tow truck driver, paramedic, body shop technician.....anyone at all in the industry and tell me if you find one single person who agrees with you. The fact is that if ever single person involved in an entire industry (not insurance but accidents) says you're wrong, than guess what, you're wrong.

okay ill be wrong then. but if i was the person driving that car... i wouldn't have stopped, i would've kept going, and i wouldn't have been in an accident. i take 100% responsibility of my vehicle at all times. my primary objective when operating a motorized vehicle is to arrive at my destination safely, and my car has many functional modifications to help me accomplish this. sorry but i don't know much about insurance professionals, police offices, tow truck drivers, paramedics, body shop technicians... i simply havent needed them. ill continue to be wrong..... with my clean record of no collisions and no demerit points ever.
 
okay ill be wrong then. but if i was the person driving that car... i wouldn't have stopped, i would've kept going, and i wouldn't have been in an accident. i take 100% responsibility of my vehicle at all times. my primary objective when operating a motorized vehicle is to arrive at my destination safely, and my car has many functional modifications to help me accomplish this. sorry but i don't know much about insurance professionals, police offices, tow truck drivers, paramedics, body shop technicians... i simply havent needed them. ill continue to be wrong..... with my clean record of no collisions and no demerit points ever.

And when you get hit one day by someone who is reading a newspaper draped over a steering wheel in stop and go traffic make sure you tell your adjuster that you're partially at fault.
 
If somebody is reading the newspaper while driving and the guy in front starts backpedaling.......
 
The conversation isn't about self preservation. It's about fault allocation. When I pull over its on the safest section of road possible. No hills, curves, obstructed sight lines, but that's not what we're talking about here.

I started off using language like 'the truck driver' and 'the person who...' for that very reason. I slipped into using 'he' and 'him' because I'm typing on a phone and figured people would understand that it could just as easily be a woman. However, to your point about screaming kids - that could easily happen to a man or a woman. You undermine your whole point by gender stereotyping and suggesting that only a woman could be distracted by kids as they are the ones charged with those types of domestic tasks. The fact remains that distractions, no matter their origin, take concentration away from driving and cause these types of situations. Some people in this thread are looking for ways to blame the car, but I still haven't heard any reason why the person at the wheel of the truck isn't completely at fault for causing this accident.


Seriously? Self preservation does not have a factor in your driving behaviour? I'm surprised your still typing. Did you ever hear the expression dead right? Well the car driver can be 0% at fault but if he/she is a quadriplegic b/c of the collision does fault really matter at that point. I myself use common sense and avoid to the best of my abilities a situation that will result in an injury for me. That is way I use latex gloves and an N-95 mask when dealing with patients that are coughing, spitting, scratching, bleeding, or whatever else.
 
Seriously? Self preservation does not have a factor in your driving behaviour? I'm surprised your still typing. Did you ever hear the expression dead right? Well the car driver can be 0% at fault but if he/she is a quadriplegic b/c of the collision does fault really matter at that point. I myself use common sense and avoid to the best of my abilities a situation that will result in an injury for me. That is way I use latex gloves and an N-95 mask when dealing with patients that are coughing, spitting, scratching, bleeding, or whatever else.

F for reading comprehension.
I never said that it doesn't factor into my personal driving habits, in fact I stated directly that it does. Just that the conversation wasn't about self preservation, it was about fault allocation. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
 
okay ill be wrong then. but if i was the person driving that car... i wouldn't have stopped, i would've kept going, and i wouldn't have been in an accident. i take 100% responsibility of my vehicle at all times. my primary objective when operating a motorized vehicle is to arrive at my destination safely, and my car has many functional modifications to help me accomplish this. sorry but i don't know much about insurance professionals, police offices, tow truck drivers, paramedics, body shop technicians... i simply havent needed them. ill continue to be wrong..... with my clean record of no collisions and no demerit points ever.

+1. This is the point I'm trying to make, but our Insurance adjuster doesn't get it. If I'm a vegatable after an accident and $hitting into a plastic bag for the rest of my life(if you can call it that) what does blame mean???? When I took driving lessons I was taught that you should consider everyone else on the road an idiot and drive as if they are trying to kill you. Well the male or female driver tried to just that to the car. Lesson learned don't do the unexpected and stop on a road or highway where high speed traffic is travelling!
 
F for reading comprehension.
I never said that it doesn't factor into my personal driving habits, in fact I stated directly that it does. Just that the conversation wasn't about self preservation, it was about fault allocation. Try to keep up with the rest of the class.


I work in a Hospital, I could care less about fault allocation. Do you comprehend that????? Buddy you do the paper work. I get the body STFU! I think we have a Turbodish wannabe?
 
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I work in a Hospital, I could care less about fault allocation. Do you comprehend that?????

Well just try to stay on the trolley. The conversation started with a comment about how the car should bear some fault. That's what I commented on and have been discussing. If you want to talk about whether that was the smartest idea or not knock yourself out. So go on not caring about fault allocation, just do it somewhere else....you know, where that's not what people are talking about.
 
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true but id say its the cars fault or maybe even the bikers if that is what held up the car. there doesn't seem to be any reason to stop there that i can tell. confusing

I think it's worthwhile to note it's never a good idea to put oneself in harms way, ride and drive like everybody's trying to kill you etc. Duly noted but that's it.
 
Here's another:
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That was completely pathetic lol. He should just give up riding. :lol:

I wrote 2 posts about my experiences a few years back, when traffic came to a screeching halt on the qew into Toronto.
I always pull between the cars or up the shoulder at least one car length until the traffic coming from behind stops safely.
On this day, it was right after a bend in the road, so you didn't have much time to react, i pulled up the skinny shoulder in the fast lane, right next to a womans window.
At first she glanced at me with a concerned look, as if she thought i might be mad at her or something, then you hear the sound of tires screeching, a loud crash as the car behind her gets totaled and rams into her bumper approx 15kms hr, giving her a good jolt.
She immediately looks over at me and you could see the look of understanding on her face as she rolled the window down and said "Now i see why you pulled ahead!"

I smiled and nodded at her as i replied, "predictable"
 
That was completely pathetic lol. He should just give up riding. :lol:

I wrote 2 posts about my experiences a few years back, when traffic came to a screeching halt on the qew into Toronto.
I always pull between the cars or up the shoulder at least one car length until the traffic coming from behind stops safely.
On this day, it was right after a bend in the road, so you didn't have much time to react, i pulled up the skinny shoulder in the fast lane, right next to a womans window.
At first she glanced at me with a concerned look, as if she thought i might be mad at her or something, then you hear the sound of tires screeching, a loud crash as the car behind her gets totaled and rams into her bumper approx 15kms hr, giving her a good jolt.
She immediately looks over at me and you could see the look of understanding on her face as she rolled the window down and said "Now i see why you pulled ahead!"

I smiled and nodded at her as i replied, "predictable"

I've listened to this exact same story in 3 languages so far.
 
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