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Type17 said:
if you're concerned with work flow nothing beats a customized linux installation and its what i use for school.
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I use that for both work and play but some people are forced to use Windows for work due to single platform marketing of necessary software packages.
 
Type17 said:
That being said, if you're concerned with work flow nothing beats a customized linux installation and its what i use for school.

I'm typing this on a mac btw... it just werks! (tm). it's a computer for ppl that would rather not learn to use one.
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Try programming an Allen-Bradley PLC on anything but a Windows computer. RSLogix only works with Windows.
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Our business has 2 post-W8 laptops. One has been downgraded through a purchase of a W7 license and quite a few hours with manufacturer support while the other has been bought with W7 after countless hours of searching for something with the right specs and anything but W8. Fortunately I don't need to use Windows for work or play but I've gone through something similar when Mark Shuttleworth snorted up some space-coke and barfed out the Unity desktop environment for Ubuntu Linux. Been using Linux Mint ever since for the same reasons people are switching from W8 to W7.. Can't put a tablet-oriented interface on a desktop and expect for people to get real work done with it.
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Dual booting my netbook with linux mint. For most basic stuff linux mint is sufficient and very fast. I still seem to be able to create OS breaking bugs in linux though.
 
N3WMAN said:
Dual booting my netbook with linux mint. For most basic stuff linux mint is sufficient and very fast. I still seem to be able to create OS breaking bugs in linux though.
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It really depends on your hardware and how well it's supported. My current desktop has no compatibility issues and has been rock solid for almost a year now. Had some driver issues with my laptop in early 09 but fixes got released pretty quickly and it has been working perfectly ever since (still use it when I travel).
 
Brian P said:
Try programming an Allen-Bradley PLC on anything but a Windows computer. RSLogix only works with Windows.
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Ahhh, brings back memories of my trade school years. Learned A-B programming, Modicon, and I thought there was another brand big in this space but the name escapes me..... GE perhaps?

Is Modicon still a force? I remember that was the one they trained us on the most as they told us that was the brand we'd most likely run into, and we did very little A-B training.
 
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SunnY S said:
Ahhh, brings back memories of my trade school years. Learned A-B programming, Modicon, and I thought there was another brand big in this space but the name escapes me..... GE perhaps?

Is Modicon still a force? I remember that was the one they trained us on the most as they told us that was the brand we'd most likely run into, and we did very little A-B training.
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I haven't dealt with that for years. I think Modicon was more CNC than PLC. Most common CNC controllers that I see are Fanuc which used to have a connection with GE, but no longer.
 
Brian P said:
I haven't dealt with that for years. I think Modicon was more CNC than PLC. Most common CNC controllers that I see are Fanuc which used to have a connection with GE, but no longer.
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Modicon were certainly PLCs. I started out on the Modicon 484/584/884/984 series. Modicon started as an American company in the late 60s or early 70s. By the mid 80s Modicon PLCs were the dominant technology leader. A-B had competitive PLCs by the late 80s and were very similar to Modicon in function and capabilities. Modicon was purchased by AEG and then by Schneider. In typical fashion; Schneider gutted the technical and design teams. There has been very little development in Modicon in the last 15 ~ 20 years and most work with these PLCs today is to replace them.
Some of the 800 series I/O systems are still serviced, but not much else has been developed. If you don't invest in development, you'll be quickly left behind. (to the point now, Modicon is in obscurity)

We still see elements of Modicon design everywhere; ladder logic programming and Modbus communication.
 
I had to do some research after that last post - you're right. The PLCs that we use now are based on what Modicon developed, but Modicon itself is pretty much obsolete. I can't remember the last one I've seen except as part of an obsolete electrical panel that is getting scrapped and replaced with something else.
 
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