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Hi all, recently bought a used motorcycle. Going to get it safetied tomorrow. I want to review everything before I head in, and there are a couple potential areas of concern as I do not want to have to make 2 trips (plus I must transfer ownership in the next couple days so time is of the essence to get a safety certificate).

1) Will a "tail tidy" shown in the attached photo pass?
I do not think it has a license plate light - Is this mandatory to pass safety in Ontario for motorcycles?
I can change the angle of the plate easily, but I am not sure how I can add a light for the plate in a DIY fashion before tomorrow (if required).
I was not given the original parts by the previous owner, he said he did not have them.

2) The front turn signals are flush mounted and tinted, will this be an issue?

3) The front tire is date stamped 2013, and the rear stamped 2016. Both tires have plenty of tread and are not "cupped". Seems the bike was barely touched since these were installed and sat on wheel stands since in a warmed garage. I am already planning to buy new tires for this season and am just starting to do my homework on which set I want to go with, then will shop prices, but for the time being, I just need a safety certificate to finish ownership transfer. Will this be an issue?

4) The rear tail light has integrated turn signals (again from the previous owner), will this be an issue?

5) It has an aftermarket fuel controller installed. Will this be an issue?

Thanks everyone for the input.
I am going to try and rectify anything tonight before stopping in tomorrow for the inspection.
 

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If the shop is following the letter-of-the-law, there are a few things that will cause it to fail.
- The tail tidy as pictures will fail
- No license plate light will fail
- Integrated turn signals with the tail light will fail
- Not sure about the tinted flush mount signals, but likely a fail if following the official rules
- Tire age is not mentioned in the rules, they only mention cracks and wear
- Fuel management system will be fine

To answer your question, it all boils down to what shop you go to and how much the mechanic is willing to let slide / risk.
 
1) Buried licence plate with no light will not pass.
2) Front signals are a big maybe - depends on the mechanic.
3) As long as the tires have sufficient tread and no ozone cracking you're okay.
4) Integrated tail lamp will not pass - signals must be a certain distance apart.
5) Fuel controller is not an issue - there is no Clean Air requirement for motorcycles BUT if the exhaust is excessively loud that might be a problem. Again, it depends on the mechanic.
 
Dunno about the safety certification issue but with the drivers on our roads I’d be going out of my way to make myself more visible…not less, which is what those tiny tinted signals do. Also no one cares what the back of your bike looks like…you can’t see it when you’re riding but you really really want to make sure drivers see it.
 
Pipes are partially obstructing the tail light. Is that a concern?
 
Okay so in terms of what I can rectify tonight:

1) I can make up a new bracket to hold my plate further towards the back of the bike at a 90 degree angle to the ground. So location will be greatly improved. I don't know how to rectify no plate light - anyone have any ideas? Can I hack apart one of these flash lights and try to splice it in? I have no experience with electrical but have the tools to do it.
2) I will replace these with stock ones as I actually was given these.
3) Will just cross fingers they will let this by, will be getting new tires before riding season anyways.
4) I don't have the original, hope this can slide.

So main concern is the license plate light (provided the tires don't give me issues).

If anyone has any idea of how to splice in a plate light please let me know (consider it a temp fix, and I can look at purchasing something more permanent on Amazon to install in the next few weeks).
 

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Walmart/CanadianTire/PrincessAuto should have little 12v LED license plate bolt lights that would work, although the wiring looks super fragile on them so they're not a long term solution.

Each of those places will also definitely have white 12v LED stick-on strip lights in the automotive section that could work if you can rig up something to point them downwards at the plate. Being that close to the exhaust is likely to melt them.
 
Ash said:
Walmart/CanadianTire/PrincessAuto should have little 12v LED license plate bolt lights that would work, although the wiring looks super fragile on them so they're not a long term solution.

Each of those places will also definitely have white 12v LED stick-on strip lights in the automotive section that could work if you can rig up something to point them downwards at the plate. Being that close to the exhaust is likely to melt them.
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Okay thank you for the recommendation.
After looking at these 3 stores for "license plate light", "12v light", and "automotive light" I came up with these 2 as options that are available in store that I can grab today:

https://www.princessauto.com/en/4-1-2-in-led-licence-plate-light/product/PA0008571283
And
MotoMaster LED Trailer License Plate Light | Canadian Tire

The next question is, how can I wire these up?
Can I extend these 2 leads right to the battery? (I think then they wouldn't turn off when the bike turns off).
How should I wire these to do as minimal damage to whatever wiring is already existing on the bike, considering this will be a temporary 1 day install?
 
Do you have a multimeter or voltage tester? You basically just need to find a wire that is "hot" (+12v) when the bike is turned on, such as the one that lights up your tail light. You don't want the wire for your brake light, for instance.

Splice one of the wires on your new license plate light to that +12v wire. It's way better to use a crimp connector of some sort rather than just cutting the wires and taping them together, but tape will work temporarily. Then securely attach the other wire from the license plate light to an unpainted metal section of your frame, such as by sandwiching it under a screw or bolt on the frame somewhere. If the LED doesn't light up when the bike is turned on, you got the wires backwards, so just swap them around.
 
Have passed with integrated signals multiple times. People will tell you no but the stickler mechanics will fail it, and some won't. I stay away from those maniac obsessive safety places.
 
Re power to the license plate lamp: Go digging around a bit under the passenger seat. Hopefully the OEM connector for the license plate lamp is still there, not plugged in to anything. There's the power supply the bike originally had for the license plate lamp. Use it.

The ideal scenario is to find the matching connector from the original license plate lamp, but I'm gathering that you don't have the original parts to be able to plug in. I hate hacking into main wiring harnesses.

If the wiring harness has been hacked, good luck.
 
Here are some other options if you're close to Kapsco. Just did a quick search on their site, but their LED bolts are out of stock.

Search results for: 'license plate light'

Motorcycle and Automotive Parts and Accessories. KapscoMoto was founded to solve a growing problem in the motorcycle industry, the lack of affordable parts and accessories. Since launching in 2006 we have been able to keep that goal by always offering staggeringly low prices for our ever...
www.kapscomoto.com www.kapscomoto.com
 
How confident are you in your technical ability to check that everything is actually safe, and where do you plan on taking it? You can always ask them up front with your concerns, and they should be able to tell you.
 
Relax said:
Here are some other options if you're close to Kapsco. Just did a quick search on their site, but their LED bolts are out of stock.

Search results for: 'license plate light'

Motorcycle and Automotive Parts and Accessories. KapscoMoto was founded to solve a growing problem in the motorcycle industry, the lack of affordable parts and accessories. Since launching in 2006 we have been able to keep that goal by always offering staggeringly low prices for our ever...
www.kapscomoto.com www.kapscomoto.com
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I order a lot of little stuff from there. Good place to grab parts. All my lighting accessories came from there.

Serpa motorsports passed my flush mount turn signals and integrated tail light. They wouldnt pass my plate holder without a plate light so picked a plate light from kapsco
 
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