No I don't have it backwards. If you're in the intersection on a green light, and the light turns yellow, proceed when safe.
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Who has the right of way in this scenario?
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No I don't have it backwards. If you're in the intersection on a green light, and the light turns yellow, proceed when safe.
Even if the light turned full red the blue car would still have to wait for the purple car to pass. Left turner always has to wait for it to be clear or for everyone else to be stopped. There is no other variation. Variations will get you killed!
In that case the purple car as to come to a complete stop at the red light, and that should give blue car enough time to clear the intersection.
Left turn.
Yes, but you would still have to wait for the intersection to be clear of oncoming traffic and pedestrians before you made the turn. Doesn't matter if the light is green, yellow or red.
I don't disagree with you. I'm just explaining why you'd be stopped in the intersection on a green. Maybe I lost track of what you were talking about somewhere in the thread.
Purple car has right of way unless he's got a red in which case he should stop and make his right on red when safe. If it's yellow he should stop if he can. Left hand turn almost never has right of way unless he's got a left turn light in which case 90% of the time purple car will cut him off, anyway.
If you're in Toronto the purple car would just make his right regardless of what the light or traffic is doing. People make right on red 10 ft in front of me (when I have green and am moving at speed limit) all the time.
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In Toronto, red lights are only a suggestion. No one seems to come to a complete stop unless proceeding would result in a pedestrian on the hood and, even then, no one seems to stop where they should (behind the stop line before proceeding).
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This was already answered correctly and there's still 5 pages of debate
Only 3 for now... and counting.
Actually, in this case where there is a yellow light, would the blue car have the right of way?
On a yellow, the purple car would have to stop, since it can do so safely and it is not in the intersection yet.
The blue car, already being in the intersection would be allowed to proceed, once the intersection is clear.
Post 17 by Marcos. Straight from the Driver's Handbook, from MTO.
Except in the original scenario, the car making a right hand turn is not in the intersection yet and has a yellow light. If that car is travelling slow enough to safely make a right turn, that car is obliged to stop.
The car making the left turn is in the intersection already, on a yellow. Provided the way is clear (and for all intents and purposes, the scenario would seem to indicate that it is), it would have the right of way to complete its left turn.
The car making the left turn is in the intersection already, on a yellow. Provided the way is clear (and for all intents and purposes, the scenario would seem to indicate that it is), it would have the right of way to complete its left turn.
Yep.
Right link, wrong conclusion
READ THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, FIRST LINE.
HTA says :
HTA; Sec135 Right of way
(2) Every driver approaching an intersection shall yield the right of way to any vehicle in the intersection that has entered it from an intersecting highway. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 135 (2).\
So in the example which car entered the intersection first? Whichever entered the intersection first has the legal right of way.
No wonder our highways are so dangerous, no body knows the rules of the road.
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The intersection starts at the white pedestrian lines, both cars are shown IN the intersection.
That thing about the thick white stop line is another of the things no one seems to understand.
Read the link you referred to an "intersecting highway" is one that is running in another direction, IE a North South highway INTERSECTS an East West highway. In this scenario both vehicles are on the SAME highway, just traveling in opposite directions.
The vehicle making the left turn must wait until it is safe for the driver to make the turn. Oncoming traffic, even that which is signalling a turn, precludes making the turn in safety. The right turning vehicle is under no such onus. This is in keeping with the section of the Driver's Handbook, that was quoted by Marcos.
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