Yeah, not highway, but country roads with a few turns. I could take the 403, but it wouldn't save time, and I prefer the view in the country. I also have a heavy foot. Is that good, or bad, where this DPF is concerned?
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What's your expirience with the Dodge/Ram Ecodiesel 3.0L, 2nd Gen (2014-2019)
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The more power you are using, the better for regen.
Mad Mike
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Gas engines have closed the gap on diesels in cars and small trucks. If you add in the initial premium for a diesel, the higher /l fuel prices, the expensive oil changes... it's not worth it. You also have really expensive parts and repairs should you need them as almost everything in the driveline needs to be done by a dealer.
Used to be a big advantage in fuel economy -- not so much these days unless you're towing heavy stuff. They still have a longer life, but that's only relevant if you like to keep cars for more than 350,000km.
My 2017 Ram 5.7L was getting 13.8L/100kms when I started to baby it. 15.8L/100kms previously.
I can only go by the claimed L/100kms for the diesel, but combined they claim 8.8L/100kms. That's a good savings, but having never driven a diesel, your braking my heart with all this talk of maintenance costs! I guess I'll find out.
I had planned to keep my 2017 till I die, but the unforeseen happened. If this ecodiesel lasts, I plan to keep it till I die. Fingers crossed.
really wanted an ecodiesel but read the warnings... its probably too late now but i dont get why ppl knock against the pentastar... i wish you all the best OP. i watched this dudes stuff who is originally from listowel which is in our neck of the woods... might be worth taking it to him for a good inspection and proper insight?
From my experience, diesel gets closer to EPA mileage than gas does. For diesel, somewhere between city and combined is probably a reasonable real-world expectation for most daily drivers.
Mad Mike
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I've had 2 4.7 dodges, one in a Commander and one in a RAM 1500 - both averaged 13.5 on 50/50 city highway. I could get sub 12 in the pickup staying at 85kmh for long runs, the Commander rarely changed from 13.5. I'm easy on and easy off the gas.
My colleague's Ecodiesel Grand Cherokee did a little better, he was always around 12, even towing a 16' triple bike trailer. But that's where the savings ended -- $200 on each oil change, $6500 on a transmission, and countless repairs to the turbo actuator control unit. He sold the truck at 220,000 KM when it started making timing chain noises and the dealer informed him the repair would be $1800-4000 depending on what they saw when things were opened up.
Someone mentioned Celtic Tuner, but I can't find the comment now.
I looked into it. It turns out shops in Ontario won't do the deletes anymore because they are cracking down on the shops with big fines.
I looked into it. It turns out shops in Ontario won't do the deletes anymore because they are cracking down on the shops with big fines.
lots of good advice here.
need to look at what the upfront cost of a diesel over the alternative gas engine is, then look into maintenance/upkeep costs and always a good idea to check on how easy/difficult service is/can be. if you have to drop the engine to do even the most basic work the costs will add up fast. come up with an honest worst case number then divide by current/expected fuel costs/yr and do the math. more often then not you would need to own the vehicle for 10+ years to be worth the potential costs over gas engines even at current/higher rates.
need to look at what the upfront cost of a diesel over the alternative gas engine is, then look into maintenance/upkeep costs and always a good idea to check on how easy/difficult service is/can be. if you have to drop the engine to do even the most basic work the costs will add up fast. come up with an honest worst case number then divide by current/expected fuel costs/yr and do the math. more often then not you would need to own the vehicle for 10+ years to be worth the potential costs over gas engines even at current/higher rates.
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