17 whole province, 7 in Chatham.
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Whats with all of these fatalties this season?
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17 whole province, 7 in Chatham.
vociferous
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so whens your funeral?
The MTO does not release these stats, which are usually in the hands of insurance actuaries.
For that article about Chatham region:
— A Bayham man, 39, dies after his off-road motorcycle collides with a car on North Rd. in Norfolk County.
Aug. 4
— A car travelling on Hwy. 3 in Dutton-Dunwich crosses the centre line and strikes two oncoming motorcycles, killing a Kitchener man, 47, and seriously injuring a Kitchener woman, 47.
July 28
— A Grande Pointe man, 21, is killed near Wallaceburg after hitting a ditch while driving in a field and being thrown from the motorcycle.
July 16
— A Southwold Twp. man, 55, is killed in a three-vehicle crash outside London.
July 11
— A Brantford man, 39, is killed after his motorcycle crossed into oncoming traffic and struck a vehicle near Waterford.
July 6
— A London man, 38, is killed after his motorcycle collides with two vehicles on Highbury Ave. near St. Thomas.
July 4
— A Harriston man, 48, was killed after his motorcycle collided with a minivan near Minto.
Most of these people were over 38, so we can assume they have significant riding experience. No details about alcohol, but let's get real, people go to northern rural Ontario on weekends to get f--ked up until Monday. The place where they study these accident in great detail is England, and I think the profiles are about the same, excpet more mopeds and scooters are used there.
This is a in-depth read, collated by the British ministry of transport, and references true scientific studies, not stories from a guy. I recommend evertyone read this.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...C-tPYmzmSeMXB8IAw&sig2=mYXWfRDiCcFzdZiIz5ocDQ
(it's a PDF)
Some highlights:
Very importantly
they found that there was a difference between the riders’ opinions and actual
practice. ‘Protective opinions were much more common than protective behaviours
despite a widespread belief in their efficacy’ (Reeder et al. 1996). Protective
clothing, for example, was often not worn because it was, in many cases,
unacceptable to the users. Fashion may be a contributory factor to this, as may be
the cost of the clothing itself.
Age of highest accident rate was 16-20, to 31-35, numbers drop after that because there are actually much fewer riders >35.
Right-of-way-violations (ROWV) peak between 4-6pm, so does overtaking accident and loss of control on bends.
Riders having this type of accident are nearly three times as likely (compared with
the whole sample) to be rated as ‘inexperienced’ riders by researchers; this usually
occurs when it has been noted by an investigating police officer that some form of
inexperience was a factor, e.g. a rider who has only very recently passed the
motorcycle test.
Peak accidents for out of control on bends: sunday. ROWV: monday
If all accident cases where the rider is judged either fully or partly to blame are
examined (n ¼ 919), 16.5% involve a motorcyclist overtaking other vehicles and
causing an accident. These riders have a tendency to be slightly younger than the
rest of the sample, and the indications are that they have a tendency to be riding
machines of a higher engine capacity than other accident-involved drivers (mean
cubic centimetres of capacity ¼ 507, versus 431 for riders to blame/partly to blame
in other types of accident). Perhaps surprisingly, there is no evidence that the two
peak age ranges identified in Figure 2 (16–20 years and 31–35 years) are overinvolved
in overtaking accidents when compared with the rest of the sample.
This says bikes are the factor, not age.
11% of all motorcycle accidents were rear-enders.
40% of at-fault riders are on scooters and mopeds.
42% of accidents involve bikes 500cc and above. 28% 125 or lower (mopeds , scooters).
The mean age of riders on >900cc bikes was 36, with 23% of total accidents, second to the highest category is 600-900, 33%
super sports bikes and standard bikes make up over 50% of accidents, touring bikes: 4%
3.4% or rider accidents involve alcohol.
The ‘lifesaver glance’ is the last glance over his or her shoulder that a motorcyclist
makes before carrying out a manoeuvre, especially a turn in the road as a last check
that their path is clear. Only 40.3% (n ¼ 144) of the respondents claimed to always
use this but a further 43.1% (n ¼ 144) claim to frequently use it.
The motorcycle accident database has shown that the most common cause of single
vehicle accidents is a result of riders misjudging the appropriate speed to negotiate a
bend in the road.
On polling experienced riders, 80% felt that car drivers are the most likely cause of accidents cause accidents, yet 30% of crashes involved no cars, and in court cases , blame is about 50/50.
vociferous
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kiwi
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this is where I would disagree.. I know a ton of people who started riding recently in this age group. There are a lot of "wild hogs" and middle age crisis riders here compared to other countries where motorcycle riding is more of a means of transport than a sport/luxury.
I started at a older age, mainly because had a few responsibilities to consider when was younger, but now those concearns are fewer, no mid life crises, just a choice of time.
OnAnySunday
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nah nah it was the 05 CBR1000RR
OnAnySunday
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OnAnySunday
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FYI not everyone that dies on a motorcycle is a flaming squid.
Maybe I shouldn't race mine this weekend or the previous two, or last year? I hate doritos, if it was made of chips then I would probably have eaten my bike by now
HELLBOY
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Think of the power to weight ratio as you progressed through the race... wait, that wouldn't change unless you ***** it out during...
cbcanada
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Yes Koreans use a lot if metal chopsticks
"If i was educated, I'd be a damn fool"
Pedagogue
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CafeRay, thank you for posting the PDF. Lengthy, but interesting. I started reading it and when I have the time, I'll finish it. A must read for those who are interested in being safe out there and reflecting on practices that can be fatal.
N3WMAN
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You can't make someone aware who is completely oblivious to begin with.
The point of those Transport research articles is that motorcyclists like to blame cars, but the reality is that in most accidents, any car driver is not to blame.
If people ride at rates much faster than car traffic and like to overtake left and right, they can't really complain about not being seen.
Everybody, cars and bikes, are at risk from distracted driving, it's far more dangerous than impaired driving and its getting worse. We have a slight moral upper hand in that we can't drink coffee or text while riding.
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