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I own a VW too and these things are honestly POS
I own a VW too and these things are honestly POS
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VW Warranty nightmare!
- Thread starter Mad Mike
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TDI smoked almost everything else for fuel mileage (obviously past tense, cruze diesel came close and dieselgate caused a mess).
I prefer the ride to other brands I have tried. I haven't tried premium brands as I don't want to pay for them but strongly considered honda/mazda/hyundai/subaru. Toyota is obviously a great value play but I would probably crash into a bridge and end my life after a few hours of drudgery behind the wheel.
My Mk6 TDI was the lowest ownership cost of any vehicle I will probably ever own (<$0.10/km depreciation). I had it five years and only issue was A/C compressor died. I would still have it if it wasn't for dieselgate.
Current 1.8/2.0 turbo engines can have substantial power added while maintaining durability without touching internals (~75% more power is safe). If you have a standard the clutch is marginal and cannot take any more power without upgrading. The slushbox and dsg are happy without opening them up.
Rust repairs under warranty with VW are a nightmare but happen relatively rarely. My family has never retired a VW due to rust. Almost every ford or dodge truck (before the aluminum bodies) lost the fenders quite quickly. I would rather have proper prep with crap service than garbage prep with plentiful issues and better service.
Many VW dealerships are smoking turds to be avoided at all costs. There are a few good ones.
I guess it's an only option if you want a German car and cannot afford a premium brand.
My 1966 never gave me a problem.
I took two of them well past 400,000 km each. Criteria: Mid-size car with a diesel engine and manual transmission, capable of towing a small trailer, good seats, and good road manners with reasonably decent mildly-sporty suspension and steering. VW diesels were the only ones that checked all boxes. I despise zero-feel, steer-with-a-pinkie-finger overassisted power steering, which rules out a good many others.
But, my second one was model year 2006, the last year before diesel emission controls went too complex for their own good.
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Not for me.. My goal was a fun daily driver that would do well in the snow for under $40k
Options
#1) Civic SI .... WHAT a letdown and the reliability of the 1.5T scared me away
#2) Toyota Corolla Hatchback ..... I hated the MT in this it was awful
#3) Hyundai Veloster N.... Too small
#4) Hyundai - Found it very difficult to find MT stock and dealerships kept jacking up the MSRP because of the N badge
#5) Used Genesis G70 2.0T MT
#6) Mustang GT with the V8... Insurance was scary high
#7) Used Accord 2.0T.. Open diff, torque steered like crazy and it just was not fun to drive
#8) Used Infiniti G37S Sedan MT.. RARE and expensive
The Jetta GLI came out on top with the new model back in 2019...
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I have a 2017 golf (not diesel) and it's been good so far. At about 105k I'd say at the moment, and haven't really had any major issues. Service department could be better. Ride is smooth, decent power for a small car, good styling.
My gf also just got a 2017 Tiguan a couple months ago, and that thing is pretty good too so far.
My gf also just got a 2017 Tiguan a couple months ago, and that thing is pretty good too so far.
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Big no no in my books.
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Family hauler so it will rack up a ton of kilometers. I bought my CUV on these criteria reliable, easy to maintain, and cheap per km.
Tiguan uses the 2.0T EA888 motor which means carbon cleaning (~100k mark), turbo maintenance etc etc.
I'm shocked to see the new 2020+ Tiguan requires VW 508 0w20 engine oil. That stuff is $80+ dollars for ~$5L
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When Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Ford and Infiniti became German?
Anyhow, I bought my wife a Japanese car once - it was the biggest mistake ever. Yes, it was reliable, but maintaining this thing was a nightmare - for example, you have to remove an accelerator pedal to replace a cabin filter. Horrible engineering.
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Chameleon
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No family just yet, and she lives in the city. So the miles won't get racked up too quickly. I think she also opted for some sort of extended warranty IIRC. But will definitely keep that in mind
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Well **** me. One of the main reasons I steered my daughter into buying a VW was because of their legendary corrosion warranty. When I looked into it on the VW forums, people were extremely happy with their experience with VW honoring rust claims even outside of warranty. This is the first I'm hearing of issues, but it sounds like they've changed their policy between the time I originally researched and now.
My mk4 had a couple small blisters after 10 years. My Mk6 had no visible rust after five years. My Mk7 has light surface rust where the paint was chipped. No cancer on any of mine.
Is there a manufacturer that can be trusted to not produce a lemon or fail to stand behind them when they do?
Exploding Pintos, dieselgate, GM's X car etc etc.
Is my Hyundai Theta II engine a time bomb or a nuisance.
Are EPA ratings pushing the limits of engineering?
Exploding Pintos, dieselgate, GM's X car etc etc.
Is my Hyundai Theta II engine a time bomb or a nuisance.
Are EPA ratings pushing the limits of engineering?
EPA limits have been well beyond the limits of engineering for a long time. It is all a political game. The test protocol itself is grossly out of line with conventional driving. That's why turbo cars are so popular. You can get great numbers on the gov't tests as you never build boost but in real life, nobody accelerates that slowly. If they reset the test to match real world conditions, every vehicle made would fail badly (because the limits are wrong). They should reset the test and limits but no government has the stones to do that as they would be killed by opponents for raising emission limits even though they could actually be reducing real-world emissions.
Why would there be different emission limits depending on your fuel? They are arguing that limits are required to limit health effect. If so, there should be health based limits and let manufacturers pick the fuel and treatment required to hit those limits. It is all just to appear that something is being done.
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because they didn't talk to me.
don't EVER buy a german car. unless you like punishment and torture and have bottomless pockets.
Germans cars (except VAG (except 911)) are the best, the rest are not even close.
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